The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Home Base

Home Base A starting point, and place for threads don't seem to belong anywhere else

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-05-2006, 09:27 AM   #16
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
What kind of programers will get fat on Y10k?
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 09:30 AM   #17
Flint
Snowflake
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 13,136
I believe that dd/mm/yy is based on the assumption that what day it is is the most operative information in a date, and from there what month it is is, hopefully, a more known variable, and, lastly, what year it is is included really just for legal purposes. It's arranged in order of immediate importance.

Wait a second, nevermind. We don't do it that way.
__________________
******************
There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there
it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your
expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever
gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio
Flint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 09:40 AM   #18
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
There are no programmers left. They were all cruelly and ruthlessly fired on 1/1/00 when everything worked fine. They're in hiding, probably in remote Pakistan, waiting for the unix timestamp overflow problem that will *really* devastate us. It's worse than the Y2K problem because managers don't understand it. It will happen at 2038-01-19 03:14:07. You have about 32 years to live, good luck to you all.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 09:42 AM   #19
Spexxvet
Makes some feel uncomfortable
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,346
Thanks, like I didn't have enough to worry about, already.
__________________
"I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce
Spexxvet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 09:43 AM   #20
Kitsune
still eats dirt
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 3,031
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad
The universal date format is YYYY-MM-DD with preceding zeroes in the month and day.


I just had to point out that it makes me happy that someone else follows this. It is, really, the only date format that makes sense.
Kitsune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 09:44 AM   #21
Flint
Snowflake
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 13,136
@Undertoad: The solution, of course, is that we all convert to Lindows.
__________________
******************
There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there
it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your
expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever
gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio
Flint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 11:42 AM   #22
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitsune


I just had to point out that it makes me happy that someone else follows this. It is, really, the only date format that makes sense.
Oh, do you often wonder what year it is? It makes sense for archival records but in daily usage it's clumsy.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 11:45 AM   #23
Cheyenne
Operations Operative
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: http://www.kevinlahey.com/mt.html
Posts: 616
*posting in the year 2006*

ahem! damn, now if i could only find my sundial watch. what day is it? where am I!
__________________
~What Flows From Your Fingertips Is A Reflection Of Your Heart~~ Chey~~
Cheyenne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 11:47 AM   #24
SteveBsjb
Operations Operative
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Moved from Manhattan to Edgewater, NJ.
Posts: 713
Happy 2006 to you Cheyenne!
__________________
"It's only an internet community."
SteveBsjb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 01:19 PM   #25
Kitsune
still eats dirt
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 3,031
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Oh, do you often wonder what year it is? It makes sense for archival records but in daily usage it's clumsy.
Not if you use the full format. It is difficult to confuse "2006" with a day or month. Sorting is a breeze no matter where you use this format, supported or not.

YYYY-MM-DD HH.mm
Kitsune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 01:31 PM   #26
SteveBsjb
Operations Operative
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Moved from Manhattan to Edgewater, NJ.
Posts: 713
That format (starting with YYYY) is not preferred when in a verbal conversation (actual talking).

Anyone remember those?
__________________
"It's only an internet community."
SteveBsjb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 01:38 PM   #27
Kitsune
still eats dirt
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 3,031
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveBsjb
That format (starting with YYYY) is not preferred when in a verbal conversation (actual talking).

Anyone remember those?
Oh, like, "In the year of our lord, two-thousand six..."?
Kitsune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 01:41 PM   #28
SteveBsjb
Operations Operative
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Moved from Manhattan to Edgewater, NJ.
Posts: 713
There's a common example.

No, like... you're friend is signing a check, and asks "What's the date?"

What do you say?
__________________
"It's only an internet community."
SteveBsjb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 01:44 PM   #29
Kitsune
still eats dirt
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 3,031
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveBsjb
There's a common example.

No, like... you're friend is signing a check, and asks "What's the date?"

What do you say?
"Wednesday, February fifteenth, two-thousand six."

...but I'm not writing that. I'm not aware of anyone that does, actually.
Kitsune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006, 01:46 PM   #30
SteveBsjb
Operations Operative
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Moved from Manhattan to Edgewater, NJ.
Posts: 713
Well, the verbal one is better to me.

MM/DD/YYYY verbally.

Nice of you to throw in the day of the week, when your friend asks for the date.
__________________
"It's only an internet community."
SteveBsjb is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.