A Spanish Inquisition

[fargon]

So

[richlevy]

From the NY Times story.

Financed partly by Arab nongovernmental organizations and private donations, the group's aim is to publicize the cases of prisoners still in custody, and to support prisoners and their families with donations of clothing and food.

What's ironic is that when Americans try to do this they get killed.

Fox, a father of two, had expressed concern in an article written the day before his abduction about the dehumanisation of Iraqis amid a raging insurgency and U.S. responses that he said often claimed the lives of innocents.

In one of his many visits to the region, maybe President Bush should tour the prisons. They are after all, his responsibility and legacy, just as they were for Saddam Hussein.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by fargon

So

They were making a run at building a modern liberal state, not an ideal government but better than they had. We thwarted their attempt, empowering the nut job Islamists. In their minds we represent oppression not freedom. I can't get over you radical interventionists and your fantasies about our virtuous foreign policy. Are the radical Islamists evil? Of course. Is a policy that empowers them evil? Absolutely.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I can't get over you radical interventionists and your fantasies about our virtuous foreign policy.

Fargon? A radical interventionist? I thought he was just a dirty old man, like me.

I suspect that Fargon, like most of the American public (me included) really don't have a handle on all the shit the US has had a hand in, beyond the evening news on TV. You know the networks weren't very good at giving background or tying different events together in a easily understood pattern.

It wasn't even until Nixon, that we knew what scumbags most of them are.
Sure we knew they were washing each others backs and those of major contributors, but that was internal.....family business.
But we didn't really understand how badly they were fucking with the neighbors, since school days, if then.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Fargon? A radical interventionist? I thought he was just a dirty old man, like me.

Yah, I gotta watch my tone. sorry