Mel Gibson's new movie: 'Apocalypto' - Page 5

Aliantha · 01-01-2007, 10:45 PM

Some parents do a great job yesman.

CaliforniaMama · 01-01-2007, 11:11 PM

Part of what can make the dynamic between kids and parents work is having multi-generational relationships. Robert Bly wrote a book called "Sibling Society" that talks about how each generation is starting to look more and more at their peers for advice on how to live life. Elders and youngers are becoming less significant in the greater life picture.

When we maintain relationships with elders and have multiple generations involved in our regular, everyday relationships, we develop "vertical" support rather than just "horizontal."

For instance, in our super-close circle of friends we have people who range from 90's to 20's and then teen cousins, so our kids are learning how to have relationships with people of all ages. I've seen this in my cousin's family as well. They still do things as a family unit even though the kids are all teens. They even come to my little kid's birthday parties.

The teens will have real-life conversations with grown-ups because to them grown-ups are real people to them. I'm seeing this with my own kids. They do not seem to be identifying solely because of their age. They'll interact with anyone who is interesting or who will give them the time of day (and not dismiss them because they are short).

xoxoxoBruce · 01-02-2007, 01:16 PM

There is much value in being able to say, Goodnight John-Boy.

yesman065 · 01-02-2007, 02:06 PM

Cali-Mama Thats very interesting as my son and my parents especially my father have developed a great relationship over the last year or so since he can now visit them without retribution from his mom.

Ali - thanks - I think

yesman065 · 01-02-2007, 02:10 PM

Oh, I almost forgot to ask - Should I go see this freakin movie or not?

CaliforniaMama · 01-03-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

Oh, I almost forgot to ask - Should I go see this freakin movie or not?

YES!!!

01-02-2007, 03:43 PM

My wife and I have the unique ability to talk to our son about actors and singers from the first-person perspective... that should help take a bit of the mystery out of the equation when the whole "role-model" problem begins to arise. But, he is a cool kid already, he wanted a "big boy kitchen" for Christmas and loves to cook with us... his interests are cool.

CaliforniaMama · 01-03-2007, 08:12 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/02/op...=5070&emc=eta1

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It could be argued that “Apocalypto” dehumanizes Native Americans, turning their ancestors into savage monsters, but I think it does the opposite. Oppressed hunter-gatherers in the movie are presented as people with the same, universal emotions all humans share. And urban Mayans are portrayed as politically and religiously savvy, having made of themselves a monumental, Neolithic empire, something more akin to ancient Egypt than the trouble-free agrarians who come to most people’s minds when they think of native America.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-03-2007, 05:56 PM

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...than the trouble-free agrarians who come to most people’s minds when they think of native America.

Is that guy from the NY Times out of touch or are the "most people" he refers to, that naive?

yesman065 · 01-12-2007, 09:23 AM

Out of touch gets my vote

01-01-2007, 10:45 PM	#1
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Some parents do a great job yesman. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-01-2007, 11:11 PM	#2
CaliforniaMama I wonder . . . Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Left Coast, a pretty good place to be. Posts: 1,278	Part of what can make the dynamic between kids and parents work is having multi-generational relationships. Robert Bly wrote a book called "Sibling Society" that talks about how each generation is starting to look more and more at their peers for advice on how to live life. Elders and youngers are becoming less significant in the greater life picture. When we maintain relationships with elders and have multiple generations involved in our regular, everyday relationships, we develop "vertical" support rather than just "horizontal." For instance, in our super-close circle of friends we have people who range from 90's to 20's and then teen cousins, so our kids are learning how to have relationships with people of all ages. I've seen this in my cousin's family as well. They still do things as a family unit even though the kids are all teens. They even come to my little kid's birthday parties. The teens will have real-life conversations with grown-ups because to them grown-ups are real people to them. I'm seeing this with my own kids. They do not seem to be identifying solely because of their age. They'll interact with anyone who is interesting or who will give them the time of day (and not dismiss them because they are short). __________________ Take time for silence. You never know what you might hear.

01-02-2007, 01:16 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	There is much value in being able to say, Goodnight John-Boy. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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01-02-2007, 02:06 PM	#4
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Cali-Mama Thats very interesting as my son and my parents especially my father have developed a great relationship over the last year or so since he can now visit them without retribution from his mom. Ali - thanks - I think

01-02-2007, 02:10 PM	#5
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Oh, I almost forgot to ask - Should I go see this freakin movie or not?

01-02-2007, 03:43 PM	#7
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	My wife and I have the unique ability to talk to our son about actors and singers from the first-person perspective... that should help take a bit of the mystery out of the equation when the whole "role-model" problem begins to arise. But, he is a cool kid already, he wanted a "big boy kitchen" for Christmas and loves to cook with us... his interests are cool.

01-12-2007, 09:23 AM	#10
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Out of touch gets my vote

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