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Old 11-09-2005, 08:48 AM   #1
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Actually I've noticed a dearth of opinions on creationism from the jews.

Why don't you cite something for us since you seem to be so tuned in on the issue?
Since you have "noticed a dearth of opinions on creationism from the Jews", why don't YOU cite it?
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Old 11-09-2005, 08:58 AM   #2
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It's kind of hard to quantify a negative don't you think?
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:49 AM   #3
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It's kind of hard to quantify a negative don't you think?
I thought "dearth" in context meant "wealth" or "great deal of", and as HM pointed out, I should look up dearth. I did. It means "lack of".

I apologize.

However, I am now confused. I said "You'll notice Jews don't have a problem with all this ID/evolution crap because most of the can read Hebrew and read the text for themselves." and you agree with me in your reply, saying there is a lack of opinion, then request a cite from me saying they don't have a problem with it.

How am I supposed to cite what you've agreed is lack of opinion?
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:52 AM   #4
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I thought "dearth" in context meant "wealth" or "great deal of", and as HM pointed out, I should look up dearth. I did. It means "lack of".

I apologize.
No problem.

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However, I am now confused. I said "You'll notice Jews don't have a problem with all this ID/evolution crap because most of the can read Hebrew and read the text for themselves." and you agree with me in your reply, saying there is a lack of opinion, then request a cite from me saying they don't have a problem with it.

How am I supposed to cite what you've agreed is lack of opinion?
Isn't there, somewhere out there, an article or something citing where jews fall on this issue?

And more to the point, is there anyone other than evangelical xtians pushing the ID agenda?
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:44 PM   #5
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And more to the point, is there anyone other than evangelical xtians pushing the ID agenda?
One datum:

My kids go to Catholic school here in the Chicago suburbs. I help the kids prepare for most of their tests so I can tell you:

1) They have covered the big bang theory in science.
2) They have learned about plant and animal adaptations.
3) Their teachers use the term evolution in class and they have been taught what it is.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:54 PM   #6
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Well, the vatican came out in favor of evolution here.

"But we also know the dangers of a religion that severs its links with reason and becomes prey to fundamentalism," he said.

"The faithful have the obligation to listen to that which secular modern science has to offer, just as we ask that knowledge of the faith be taken in consideration as an expert voice in humanity."

Poupard and others at the news conference were asked about the religion-science debate raging in the United States over evolution and "intelligent design."

Intelligent design's supporters argue that natural selection, an element of evolutionary theory, cannot fully explain the origin of life or the emergence of highly complex life forms.

Monsignor Gianfranco Basti, director of the Vatican project STOQ, or Science, Theology and Ontological Quest, reaffirmed John Paul's 1996 statement that evolution was "more than just a hypothesis."

"A hypothesis asks whether something is true or false," he said. "(Evolution) is more than a hypothesis because there is proof."
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:02 AM   #7
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Since you have "noticed a dearth of opinions on creationism from the Jews", why don't YOU cite it?
Did you do a quick check on what "dearth" means?
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