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View Poll Results: How screwed is Europe?
not screwed 7 25.00%
just a tad screwed 6 21.43%
pretty screwed 11 39.29%
screwed royale 4 14.29%
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:47 PM   #1
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:02 PM   #2
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Rioting in Paris Suburbs Continues for a Ninth Night
The violence has isolated the country's tough-talking anticrime interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, whom some people blame for having made the situation worse with his blunt statements about "cleaning out" the "thugs" from these neighborhoods.

France has been grappling for years with growing unrest among its second- and third-generation immigrants, mostly North African Arabs, who have faced decades of high unemployment and marginalization. Critics say Mr. Sarkozy's confrontational approach has polarized the communities and the government. ...

Mishandling of street violence has tainted France's political right before. The death of a young French-Algerian man after a beating by police during student demonstrations in December 1986 ...
Notice what happens when hard line extremists take charge. In Israel, it created the murder of Rabin and a second Intafada. In South Asia, an extremist Indian government took India and Pakistan literally to within hours of a nuclear war. In Paris, well, even when American cities were burning in the 1960s, it did not continue for nine days which suggest how hard line the French government has become.

These are natural and predictable responses when extremists justify their brutality by political rhetoric rather than first learn reality. Even torture is a good thing. Just ask George Jr - extremist who is told by god what to do. Gitmoize Abu Ghraid, and then blame the enlisted men for doing it. Like Pinochet in Chile and Milosevic in the Balkan, even torture is approved by conservative extremists because, "only we know what the truth is and you can't handle it".

Well, better people have said otherwise. The Senate's 90 to 9 vote supporting a McCain amendment - voted for in direct opposition voiced by conservative extremist Cheney - now makes George Jr torture illegal.

Meanwhile, Paris is still burning thanks to extremist hardline conservatives who just know those people must be evil.

Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition ... for the same reasons. Clearly those other people needed to be saved from themselves - even in Paris. We just need to put more troops on the street. BTW, same applies to Baghdad. Extremist conservative rhetoric proves might makes right.

Maybe someone should first ask some simple questions such as what is the problem? Unfortunately, when political rhetoric becomes fact, then violence, including an almost nuclear war, results.
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:31 AM   #3
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Why is all of this symbolic of some political thing? Are we pretty sure it isn't just a bunch of assholes out fucking shit up because they can? I know it works that way after the NBA finals here in America.
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