Sooner rather than later...

Originally posted by juju
<i>we are not at war</i>

Tell that to the wives of the men that died fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

The very simple fact of the matter is that we are at war. To make sure, I looked up what "war" means.

A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties.

That sure sounds like what's going on to me. So, juju, why would we even need to bother changing the definition? That above definition fits <b>perfectly</b> the situation - a group (al Qaeda) is waging an armed and prolonged conflict against the United States and we, in return, are waging an armed and prolonged conflict against al Qaeda.

There may have been no formal declaration, but make no mistake about it, this is war. It might not be on the scale of World War II, but it is war nonetheless.

I now ask you and Griff to describe, in plain English as I have, how this current armed and prolonged conflict, carried on against al Qaeda, does not fit the definition of war.