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03-01-2005, 11:22 AM
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Junior Master Dwellar
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Ah. When you posted
FACTS I assumed you meant these were your words, not the link. I apologize. And when you want the credibility of my scholars, I can post a list of their names and degrees and associations. It would take a while to type. Or you could pick up "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel, and read what the scholars are saying. There will always be people who and interpret the evidence differently (see evolution v. creation) but the fact remains there is evidence.
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03-01-2005, 12:29 PM
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It's the teachings, not the being
Regardless of whether Christ existed or not, it's the teachings of Christ (or whomever) that are the important parts. Selflessness, kindness, and the golden rule are what to be gleamed out of the Gospels, not whether he liked pita, or was real or unreal. Wake up folks.
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03-01-2005, 12:33 PM
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Junior Master Dwellar
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The basis of Christianity is saving grace (redemption of sin, final sacrifice, etc) pivots on Jesus' existence, life, crucifixion, and resurrection. Without that, the rest of it crumbles. If Jesus wasn't who he was, why listen to him? He was simply a heretical Rabbi.
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03-01-2005, 01:02 PM
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03-01-2005, 01:03 PM
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I think this line's mostly filler.
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And persecuted heretics are more likely to have thought more deeply about the subject than orthodox people - they may or may not be more correct, but they have at least considered it deeply.
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03-01-2005, 02:40 PM
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That's all window dressing and the dogma of it all. As a Catholic, having been read the Gospels at length, I saw the beauty of the words. The compassion it taught, the ability to love others who hate you, etc. There truly is no other work like the Gospels. To only try to pick apart the Gospels for the mystical aspects and the then debunk it is a bit short sighted. If that is all you saw, then you are blinded by a secular pesimism that has consistently thrown the baby out with the bathwater. -Walrus |
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03-01-2005, 02:44 PM
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