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Old 03-20-2002, 01:21 PM   #12
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well now we're going to prevent him from joining the chess, choir, or D and D clubs as well.
No. They are attempting to institute mandatory drug tests for extracurricular activities. These tests would take place at the beginning of the year and then randomly thereafter. They're not preventing him from joining. They are demanding that you compromise. If you want to taste the fruit, you give something in return. I don't understand why it's so hard to understand the concept of give and take. You part with your money every time you fill your gas tank with fuel. HOW UNJUST! You just gave away some of your financial freedom! I KNOW! LET'S SUE!

<b>THERE IS NO RIGHT TO A CHESS CLUB</b>. There is a right to privacy, yes. <b>You</b> have to maintain it. If you are walking around naked, you cannot claim that everyone is invading your privacy. If you have your door open on your house, you cannot claim someone looking in is invading your privacy. Well, you can <b>claim</b> it, but you will get laughed out of court. You have to maintain your privacy. If you want to live a life where no one invades your privacy, that's fine. But you have to make concessions for that privacy. Don't enjoy a credit card. Don't bask in the convenience of having a telephone. Don't join the chess club.

When you go to the airport, do you bitch and moan about searches without a warrant? Honestly? Do you say "hey, yeah sure, you can scan my luggage. Just show me your search warrant." To have the luxury of flying, you make some concessions. You go through a metal detector and your bags get X-rayed. HOW UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

<b>NO!</b> If you don't like it, <b>don't get on a plane</b>. There is no right to fly the friendly skies.

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“The police could not go through your neighborhood, door to door, saying, “We’d like a urine sample to see if maybe you’re using drugs, ’ ” said Graham Boyd of the ACLU. “They can’t do that in schools either.”
Of course they couldn't. But this isn't at all like going door to door for cups of piss. This is more like going door to door, saying "Hi, would you like some girl scout cookies? The cost is a cup of urine, on which we will perform drug tests." You say "yes" and then want the cookies while bitching and moaning about how peeing in the cup is contrary to your 4th Amendment rights. Guess what? <b>Don't take the cookies!</b> If you don't want to open yourself up to the skeptecism, don't. You don't have to.

It would be wholly different if they were demanding drug tests to attend public school. You are guaranteed schooling by the law. You are not guaranteed a spot on the chess club. You make concessions to get there. One of them is now a drug test.

You make the choice.
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