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Old 09-16-2004, 01:56 PM   #30
Joe Faux
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OK. Thanks for the long write-up and I'm sorry to put you through the dissertation. It helps clarify your position.

I believe that we exist for a reason that has yet to be understood. Whether its nature playing with itself or nature teaching our “essence” a lesson, we, as a species, naturally strive to seek solutions to broaden our knowledge. (Our attention span is so short and we're easily bored.) If an “essence” indeed exists, it would seem to me that it's challenging us to learn more about something using this framework. I think it would be contrary to our “essence” if we remained in “the moment” for too long. For goodness sake, we dream when we're asleep. Our need to learn and explore does not stop. I believe we take these lessons on following our Earthly death. Note that I do not have any fact to support this claim.

You're describing “essence” using words like “my” and “our” which would imply you believe and individual “essence” exists for each of us. Therefore, there must be some sort of being or mechanism that determines the percentage of “essence” allotted for each creature. True?

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It is the control thing again. We fear loss of control because with responsibility comes security - but it is a false security. How can we presume to have any control over life?
Ah, but we do have some control over life. If someone is found to be a serial murderer, should we respect the fact they're being true to their “essence”? Should we be allowed to be true to our nature if in fact it harms another? Why should we catch and convict people if they're merely nature's way of thinning the herd?

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Originally Posted by Catwoman
All I would ask is why you would want to influence it?
I may recognize that I'm insensitive to other people's needs. I may allow other people to take advantage of me. There may be many reasons why we would want to influence our “essence”. Each of these situations would be an opportunity to grow our "essence".

“With great power comes great responsibility” - Spider Man 1962

We have more power over ourselves than we give credit for.

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Originally Posted by Catwoman
But you find that when you live life with true connection to your greater self, the search for answers ceases and is replaced by a genuine pleasure and absorption with life.
I've filtered this into “acceptance for what I cannot or do not want to change. It just is.” I'll buy that... to a point. You're presuming that everyone who finds this “true connection” will be good stewards of other people's “essence” in the process.

Let me know if I misunderstood your comments.

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Originally Posted by Catwoman
YOU FUCKING BASTARD WHY DON'T YOU JUST FUCKING LISTEN??!!!!!!!
Ok, now I have your attention. You are real right now in this moment.
I don't know if your Jedi mind trick worked quite the way you intended. Please see my posting link below.
http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=16
“Sticks and stones” you know...

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Originally Posted by Catwoman
of course you are not a fucking bastard,
Now there's an assumption...
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