lookin' for common ground

Clodfobble · 06-11-2019, 02:31 PM

If you're implying that these rights would be "under all circumstances, without exception," then I have to say no.

Flint · 06-11-2019, 02:34 PM

Of course, everyone agrees that there are exceptions, but we don't agree what the exceptions are. That's why it isn't simple and that's why simplistic models fail to describe reality, and therefore fail to provide an adequate roadmap for navigating reality. Consideration of nuance is always going to be necessary.

henry quirk · 06-11-2019, 03:15 PM

Property: that which a person owns, acquired through trade (your chair for my flute?), transaction (your chair for $50?), gift (here, have my chair.) or manufacture (go pound sand, I made my own chair), but not through theft (gimme your chair!).

Life: the existence (the day-to-day comings and goings, the activities and pursuits) of an individual human being, the singular, on-going event that is the individual, the person.

Liberty: the quality or state of being free (to come and go, to be active, to pursue goals as one sees fit in accordance with one's conscience), unregulated by the other except where one physically interferes with another (unjust regulation or deprivation of another's life, liberty, property).

c'mon, you legalistic bastids...nitpick some more...I can take it...I'll outlast all you sons of bitches

Clodfobble · 06-11-2019, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Liberty: the quality or state of being free (to come and go, to be active, to pursue goals as one sees fit in accordance with one's conscience), unregulated by the other except where one physically interferes with another (unjust regulation or deprivation of another's life, liberty, property).

c'mon, you legalistic bastids...nitpick some more...I can take it...I'll outlast all you sons of bitches

I should have the ability to get a restraining order on my emotional abuser. So, still no.

glatt · 06-11-2019, 04:32 PM

Henry, you think the world is black and white and every person who points out a shade of gray is a nitpicker.

06-11-2019, 02:31 PM	#1
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06-11-2019, 02:34 PM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Of course, everyone agrees that there are exceptions, but we don't agree what the exceptions are. That's why it isn't simple and that's why simplistic models fail to describe reality, and therefore fail to provide an adequate roadmap for navigating reality. Consideration of nuance is always going to be necessary. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-11-2019, 03:15 PM	#3
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	for the nitpickers who already know this... Property: that which a person owns, acquired through trade (your chair for my flute?), transaction (your chair for $50?), gift (here, have my chair.) or manufacture (go pound sand, I made my own chair), but not through theft (gimme your chair!). Life: the existence (the day-to-day comings and goings, the activities and pursuits) of an individual human being, the singular, on-going event that is the individual, the person. Liberty: the quality or state of being free (to come and go, to be active, to pursue goals as one sees fit in accordance with one's conscience), unregulated by the other except where one physically interferes with another (unjust regulation or deprivation of another's life, liberty, property). c'mon, you legalistic bastids...nitpick some more...I can take it...I'll outlast all you sons of bitches __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

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06-11-2019, 04:32 PM	#5
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Henry, you think the world is black and white and every person who points out a shade of gray is a nitpicker.

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