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11-26-2018, 03:42 PM | #16 |
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Yes, that's the joke.
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11-26-2018, 03:57 PM | #17 |
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So how do we reconcile that principles are necessary but imperfect?
I think that America has developed a bit of a principles fetish. Perhaps as we've moved away from organized religion, we're looking for other fundamental truths to anchor our belief systems. Like political ideologies.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
11-26-2018, 04:24 PM | #18 |
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Apparently that's one of the main questions Nietzsche was asking (although I'm not smart enough to have read him myself): now as the Enlightenment proves the traditional sources of morality to be weak, God is dead; what are we going to replace Him with?
In the century after Nietzsche, the world answered that question with its own, formulated political ideologies. Between Communism and Fascism, they managed to kill about 100 million people. So now, obviously the question is, if political ideologies are nothing short of a new source of meaning in our lives -- How are we going to stop ourselves from killing the next 100 million people? The thread is yours. |
11-26-2018, 04:42 PM | #19 |
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Thanks?
I guess you could also say we worship money. We've even enshrined the power of capital into nebulous demigods whose whims rule over the fate of mortal men. But anyway, if principles are an imperfect stab in the dark, can we really "throw them out" or do they just get updated when new information becomes available? How often do we do that and who gets to decide?
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11-26-2018, 08:56 PM | #20 | |
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You'll always have principles, they are simply what you believe is the best way to react to shit. I think principles will change from experience rather than just information.
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11-27-2018, 06:48 PM | #21 | |
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And once the fundamental principles and fundamental situations are established, we keep them that way forever-- that's why we still chop people's hands off for stealing.
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02-13-2020, 08:42 AM | #22 |
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ACLU comes down in favor of trans women competing against women in sports.
Sorry, women. You had your time, Title IX and all that, but it's over, now. |
02-13-2020, 10:52 AM | #23 |
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Fixed that for you. You're welcome.
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02-13-2020, 12:05 PM | #24 | |
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In short, more tumblr-esque hysteria. On the other hand, if the new system was introduced by Betsy Devos, I automatically distrust it and will withhold judgement, because there's going to be something awful buried in those new rules.
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02-13-2020, 12:10 PM | #25 |
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Okay, I've been looking at the article's author and some of his other work, and he seems legit.
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02-13-2020, 12:15 PM | #26 |
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If you want to be ill, read this old article of his.
https://www.theatlantic.com/national...report/386887/
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02-13-2020, 01:02 PM | #27 |
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That dude is solid, and The Atlantic is always solid imo
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02-14-2020, 01:34 AM | #28 | |
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If a cop kills you? Too bad, so sad. If you escape your hand shackles, ankle shackles and belly chain then open the back door of the cruiser which has no inside handle, and jump out. Suicide, not our fault. Cop on duty found passed out in his cruiser, in gear, foot on the brake, blood alcohol 5 fucking times the legal limit, two weeks desk duty. Oh, and the myriad on cops on the scene all had body cam malfunctions. I could go on for pages but butt-head in the whitehouse would pardon them all.
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02-14-2020, 09:29 AM | #29 |
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Recently? We replaced him with Moloch.
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02-14-2020, 03:23 PM | #30 |
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