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Undertoad · 11-10-2018, 06:29 AM

Plus, I can't stop thinking about this:

In terms of "get off my back and let me be", private regulation is usually MORE onerous than government regulation. It can be, because it doesn't have to stop and worry about rights. It just boldly goes ahead.

Like the MPAA movie ratings system (PG, R, etc) - not a product of government - private regulation just says outright whether a 12-year-old or 16-year-old can watch a movie, without considering rights at all.

At times it can be wonderfully beneficial and work better than government - see UL - but damn, a private auditor can fuck you way harder than a government regulator, and charges you for it!

Griff · 11-10-2018, 09:10 AM

Yeah, there are definitely times when private regulation works beautifully but if I'm going to choose between getting poisoned and seeking redress and government banning use of the toxin preemptively, I probably look to government. I'm not sure there is a simply applied concept for teasing out individual cases where private is more useful. We have to case by case this which we do when Presidents stop enforcement of regulations and people do or do not get pissed. Humans are involved so it's complicated.

Griff · 11-10-2018, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

In terms of "get off my back and let me be", private regulation is usually MORE onerous than government regulation. It can be, because it doesn't have to stop and worry about rights. It just boldly goes ahead.

Reflecting on this, I think about gated communities and parking, paint, and flag rules which can get pretty petty and personal.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-10-2018, 10:12 AM

When it comes to interstate, federal is the only solution, although the feds have made some questionable claims whether a situation is interstate commerce or not.

Gated and HOAs are the Devils doing.

11-10-2018, 09:10 AM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Yeah, there are definitely times when private regulation works beautifully but if I'm going to choose between getting poisoned and seeking redress and government banning use of the toxin preemptively, I probably look to government. I'm not sure there is a simply applied concept for teasing out individual cases where private is more useful. We have to case by case this which we do when Presidents stop enforcement of regulations and people do or do not get pissed. Humans are involved so it's complicated. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-10-2018, 10:12 AM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	When it comes to interstate, federal is the only solution, although the feds have made some questionable claims whether a situation is interstate commerce or not. Gated and HOAs are the Devils doing. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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11-10-2018, 06:29 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Plus, I can't stop thinking about this: In terms of "get off my back and let me be", private regulation is usually MORE onerous than government regulation. It can be, because it doesn't have to stop and worry about rights. It just boldly goes ahead. Like the MPAA movie ratings system (PG, R, etc) - not a product of government - private regulation just says outright whether a 12-year-old or 16-year-old can watch a movie, without considering rights at all. At times it can be wonderfully beneficial and work better than government - see UL - but damn, a private auditor can fuck you way harder than a government regulator, and charges you for it!

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