The Slaughter Game

[Yelof]

And before that there is no recorded history so for all of the recorded history of mankind, there has never been land in that part of the world owned by the Palestinian People

You ignore what I said about the Irish, before the English started to take us over there was little sense of Irish identity, in fact it was one Irish king Diarmiud mac Murchada who invited the Normans in in order to try to gain edge over another Irish King. By your theory of national rights, why do the Irish have rights and not the Palestinians?

Even the IRA eventually sussed that they were never going to win with a continued war and had to change the mindset to trying to obtain a way to get there through dialog.

Nope they bombed us to the table good and proper. And damn right they should have because we had no business in their land.

IMO It was a little bit of both but mostly the fact that the moderates on both sides of the conflict were encouraged to start talking and the moderates were able to comunicate the message into language that the extemists could understand. Israel and the pals were in such a position with Rabin and Arafat but it never happened and now there are few moderates in positions of power and those in positions to encourage moderates (i.e. the US) do not.

Clinton is much respected in Ireland for his role in the NI peace process, which although going thru a rocky time at present is still alive at least.