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Old 10-17-2015, 08:55 AM   #11
Undertoad
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When manipulating statistics for one's own use, it is helpful to understand that the numbers for gun deaths are very different from the numbers from gun murders.

There are more gun deaths; that number includes suicides, accidents, and even criminals who were shot by police or other gun owners.

Several of the states on that list are in the top ten in gun deaths. None of them are in the top ten in gun murders.

And that makes complete sense. If gun use in your state is mostly for murder, then your state is into restricting them and requiring permits. If it's for shooting bears, you don't ask people to get permits. Just shoot the damn bears. Now go back and read the list of which states don't require permits, and compare that to the list of which states have bears. Here is the list again:

Maine, Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Oklahoma.

12 states, 7 in bear country. None in permanent ghetto underclass country where the gun murders take place.
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