Guns don't kill people ....

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

What's with all these diversions... abortions, assisted suicides, drownings ?

Dwellars are bright enough to know none of these have anything to do with guns killing people.
Abortions might be brought to zero
Assisted suicides might be brought to zero
Drownings might be brought to zero
... and guns would still be killing people just the same

A reasonable extension of your rhetoric would have been:

Abortions might be brought to zero
Assisted suicides might be brought to zero
Drownings might be brought to zero
Shootings might be brought to zero

Then you could have asked for proposals on how to accomplish it; but, you didn't. Instead you went off with language that irrationally attributes actions to man made objects that aren't capable of acting on their own.

Where others see analogies, you see diversions: that's because you're set on one course of action that you see as a panacea while others see it as a placebo. You can't get rid of all guns any more than you can get rid of everything people can drown in, that people can use to commit suicide; or, ways people can perform an abortion.

You exhibit the same kind of mindset that causes me to think of some people as gun fanatics, in your case an antigun fanatic. There's no real room for discussion with those in either group. You've convinced me that your question was rhetorical.

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

If you know this is happening, what do you propose ?