w00t, 10 points to hermit for a very accurate cross-section of the issue. Considering you're doing your thesis on this stuff, it's probably a good thing you can objectively analyse the situation or you'd kinda be screwed.....but i digress.
The point I think hermit missed (and since i spend a fair chunk of time in France i'll fill in) is the severly under-represented socioeconomic factors here. These places are slums of the worst type, gigantic ugly housing projects. It's one of the most hostile environments i've ever been in (including war-ravaged Cambodia and vietnamese slums). The police travel around APCs, when they do at all. These are massive lawless tracks on the borders of the 'city of love'. Is it the slightest bit suprising that such (undenaibly) despicable behaviour goes on in areas that have basically reverted to barberism. Islam is far from perfect i'm not denying that but it's not the cause of this kinda stuff, the environment is. If anything Islam is at most a catalyst.
I know i've been flitting in and out of this place all year but things have finalyl settled down a little and i tend to be in the same place for more than a week these days so expect more of the usual far-left-wing trash (although i'm going for a shooters licence, does that discredit me?) out of me - things are back to normal
08-13-2003, 11:04 PM
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