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Old 07-02-2003, 04:14 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Radar
Who said anything about "no government"? I am for having government.
That was in reply to Gomez 's post, actually.

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Originally posted by Radar
The roads wouldn't be any more dangerous than they already are.
That's an interesting assertion. One which, as far as I can tell, is contrary to intuition. If the government just gave drivers' licences to people freely and without testing, trusting that everyone figures out the traffic laws and how to drive safely on their own... that's a recipe for disaster. How could a goverment uphold laws that it made no effort to educate the people about? Particularly laws which involve operating a 2000-pound hunk of metal at high speeds, which is a very effective deadly weapon. The system that is there now is poor in many ways, but to have nothing would be worse.

Sure, this is just one issue, but it's logic reflects that of many of the others... it is flawed.

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Originally posted by Radar
But unlike the other states, the assholes won't be in charge.
Here is another problem. Assholes are sometimes quite ingenious about concealing the fact that they are assholes. Indefinitely. They lie, they manipulate, they distract people from what is really going on. That is exactly how each and every dirty politician got into power. Do you think most people knowingly vote for someone they consider to be an asshole?

I agree with some of your sentiments, the goverment is imperfect and has its fingers way too deep in personal lives. Too many laws are besed on Christian morals, which are not shared by all (like the anti-sodomy laws discussed in another thread). But there are too many people who are ignorant, mean, or stupid in this world for this sortof idea to work large-scale... it just falls apart once the community grows to a certain point.

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Originally posted by Gomez da Killah
the lack of federal intervention does not neccessarily mean anarchy and especially doesn't suggest chaos.
...I never suggested that (anarchy == chaos). Just that a goverment was a necessary fixture for a large, successful, advanced society.
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