Collective Responsibility -v- Individual Responsibility.

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I will inconvenience myself to ensure that I put as little as possible into landfill. I call this my educated social conscience. I don't expect thanks and I will not see the benefits, but I suppose your daughter might be glad people like me had icky feelings in 50 years time.

Isn't part of the human make-up the survival of the species? Don't other animals band together for the good of the collective? Yes, it's because it enhances their chance of survival, but I suggest the survival of the species as a whole is also hardwired in social (pack or herd) animals.

Radar - you're fully entitled to your point of view. You're fully entitled to the dog-eat-dog, it's a jungle out there mentality. But when the zombies attack I'll be down the Winchester with my mates. Safety in numbers you know?

Ali, if I understand this correctly, Dana won't benefit by standing as an independent. It's not Labour party line which is the problem - it's power sharing with an opposite political ideology in order to retain some influence. Something that independents are forced to do by their very nature as a lone voice crying in the wilderness.

Dana - I've said it to you before. You're intelligent enough to weight the consequences and the only person you have to sleep with is yourself. I'm sure you'll do what sits best with you.