Punishing the French

[ScottSolomon]

Your weekly average includes the Kurds in Halabja and the Shia that rose up after Gulf War 1, and (more than the first 2 numbers combined) the deaths of Iraqis due to sanctions.

We were friends with Saddam in 1988 - When Halabja happened. Rumsfeld made deals with Saddam Hussein shortly thereafter. We ignored the Shia's suffering when Iraq quelled their rebellion. We moved the U.N. to impose the sanctions upon Iraq and we ignored international cries for a repeal of sanctions.

You are right that the news never covered any of this. The Left - wing and independent press covered the hell out of it, but the corporate media were more interested in covering Willie Brown, Dukakis, Bill Clinton's penis, etc.

The Three Weeks War appears to have cost the lives of a whopping 2,356 Iraqi civilians by the highest of estimates, as contrasted with the expected 3,606 who would have perished if we had left Saddam's regime alone.

Equivocation of Terms fallacy. The civilian deaths you cited are just the bombing deaths - deaths from disease, exposure to depleted uranium, lack of water, etc are not included in this number. You seem to think that Iraq had a killing quota of 1202 people a week. This is not true - and the killing that was done was done by more than just Saddam Hussein and a few of his minions. More than that, the 1.5 million number is a misuse of a real figure for the purposes of manipulation - of people like you.

don't recall seeing ANY of those 1,500,000 on TV. They were inconvenient -- inconvenient to Saddam,

Well, since they would have highlighted the 750,000 children theat died because of our sanctions, yeah - it was damaging to America's interests. The corporate media ignored this because it made us look like cruel bastards - and it would have made Americans ask who was being hurt by the sanctions.

The corporate media did, however, cover a lot of the horror stories about Iraq and they never failed to portray Saddam Hussein in the proper light.

inconvenient to French oil companies

Oh Please. Iraq exported 40% of it's oil to the U.S.. It only exported about 8% of it's oil to France. You are freakin stupid - don't you ever question any of the crap you see on O'Reilly or Savage? France's debt load with Iraq was 1.5 billion. Of which they could not collect anything since Iraq had to pay Kuwait and the U.N. before it started paying other nations like Russia, Germany, and France.

They were convenient to US war plans, so they were inconvient to a generally left-oriented press

Do you even read what you type?!?!?!?! This same media that never reported the deaths in Iraq - decided to start reporting about the deaths in Halabja and the atrocities when the GOVERNMENT decided that it wanted to pursue a war. The media did not start claiming the 1.5 million iraqi deaths number until Rummy said something about it.

Were you watching T.V. during the war?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?! How in the FUCK can you honestly say that that media is generally left oriented? They never really questioned anything the administraiton said. They used passive voice in every headline to keep up the appearances of patriotism. They contributed to the vilification of dissent. They stacked generals and politicicans on the right - against COMICS??!?! And you really think there is a "librul" media?

I think, when you live in a hole, someone can light a match and you think it is the sun. You don't know how little the matchlight was unless you get out of the hole and see the sun for yourself. If you already think the media must be liberal - because you have been told that it is SOOOOOOO many times, I do not think you could see anything but a liberal media.

If I were you I would compare and contrast your American news sources with the BBC, the Guardian, the Independent, etc. Then compare the "librul media" to newsmax, tech central station, or GOPUSA. You will see something striking. You will see that the corporate media presents the right-wing perspective faaaar more often than it presents the left wing perspective.

that you think such things were permissible and entirely safe from "looting" or winding up in the hands of terrorists while the country was under Saddam.

Well, it was safe and monitored by the U.N. and the IAEA for years. I don't recall any terrorists using Iraqi nuclear waste in a bomb, do you? Since the IAEA know the isotopic ratios of the waste in Iraq, it would be fairly easy to determine whether a dirty bomb got it's materials from Iraq. Why would Saddam Hussein give terrorists something that would trace right back to him?

If they weren't safe, the UN would have found them, right?

They did, you dick. NUCLEAR WASTE is not fissile. It could not be made into a nuclear bomb.

This was the waste from the Osirak reactor. You see, this stuff stays radioactive for about 10,000 years, so the Iraqis had to store it somewhere. The IAEA knew about it. The U.N. knew about it.

The old story is that they don't exist and aren't cause for going to war

You are about as dumb as a bag of hammers. YOU CANNOT MAKE A NUCLEAR BOMB WITH NUCLEAR WASTE!!!!!!!