Huckabee and Obama Triumph in Iowa

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Dude.

Bro. :p

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Because so many of the fuckers wanted to cut funding for it in April this year.

I thought the intention was "we're not agreeing to let you throw more money at this problem in your attempt to fix it until you can show improvement, define an end game solution, and give us an estimate on when you're going to reach it", not "we're purposely withholding money so US troops can die in a sandy pit". The requirements seem pretty demanding, but remember that we are continually told that "this is for the people of Iraq" and the frustration comes when so many feel inclined to measure success not on the new structure of the Iraqi government being setup (hey, where'd all the Sunnis go?) or peace between the ethnic/religious groups that would prevent a future civil war (hey, where did all the Sunnis go?), but rather by the changing tally of US dead. It's 2008, how long has this shit been going on? Oh, right -- it will take as long as it takes. Can't rush it, can't ask for an end!

Originally Posted by Undertoad

In the bigger picture, that will turn out to have been an attempt to end the game after the Third Quarter so that it would end on a loss. A worst-case scenario in which Iraq would be left to the divide and to terrorism, and we would take 100% of the blame.

And yet, just like the "war on terrorism", of which I have been told Iraq is but an extension, no one can say when this is officially over or when we should leave, if ever, but you can bet we will continue throwing money and soldiers at the problem without asking questions because anyone that does wants us to lose the war, supports terrorists, and wants your children to be murdered by a suicide bomber. Which kind of gets back to the main topic at hand that I was trying to get at: both parties are assholes in that they gain from loss, but the "the other party wants us to lose and will let the enemy kill you -- only candidate x can save you from the imminent, Hollywood-style attacks coming from the dark, murderous shadows that originated in the middle east that are now swirling around your innocent home and family, 9/11" is really creepy, getting old, and does nothing but foster rifts in people and government.