The Soul of Man Under Socialism

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Ummm.....America right now. If you don't think that it is damn near impossible for some people to get out of poverty you are very naive.

There's no need to hide an ad hom behind a conditional that you know is true, come out and say it!

I'll grant you this reprive, I'll consider that you never adopted this weak position regarding my naivette. It's really, really not something that you want me to call you on.

Let's assume that neither of us is naive, only arrogant.

In fact, my wife and I have lived quite comfortably on about $15,000 a year. I don't think that you are taking into account the low cost of an Associates Degree or the availability of student loans.

Aside from mental issues, there is no reason why a young single or couple, acting frugally and responsibly, shouldn't be able to get a decent paying job and live very comfortably.

Now, if you still disagree, let me know. We can work together to find which factors you are willfully dismissing.

--Joe