South Africa's high court approves gay marriage

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Originally Posted by Flint

That's a long-winded version of "if we allow gays, what's next, bestiality?" etc. ad nauseum...

I don't see that in 9th's post. Admirable is his ideal that one must be so careful so as to never make a mistake. However, blindly sticking to a mistake, no matter what, is also called .... Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld is indeed a wonderfully smart man. Intelligence that is lost, useless, so destructive, and classic anti-American only because Rumsfeld also was not smart enough to admit and was so emotionally attached to his mistakes. There is nothing admirable in that mindset that even justified the holocaust and killing fields.

But again, none of this explains how gay marriage adversely affects anyone. It only says, "I was wrong but my principles will not allow me to ever be right." With Rumsfeld, that was a prescription to justify mass murder.

Principle is also characteristic of one who believes he is the new messiah. Does that personal (religous) belief justify hate of gay marriage.

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

I believe that I must behave in accordence with the current state of the system, ...

IOW stifling innovation is good? America's greatest secret for success is about change, innovation, and therefore the advancement of mankind. An engineer would never be so anti-American. And yet that is 9th's stated principles. Meanwhile, that principle does not prove that gay marriage adversely affects anyone.

9th Engineer's post reminds me of Eisenhower who knew he was wrong and would have to lie to an embarrassing question. Ike’s press conference answer made same sense as 9th Engineer's post so that the press would not dare ask any more questions. Ike's answer was a ‘total nonsense’ classic. So is 9th Engineer's reply.

Sorry 9th. I am not buying it. Like Eisenhower, you have not explained anything. Posting gobbledygook does not explain why gay marriage affects you.

So do you really believe you are the new messiah?

Either way, still unanswered is how gay marriage adversely affects anyone. Why no answer? When we have eliminated all other possibilities, the valid answer is one that remains. Apparently gay marriage only hurts emotions of those who hate gays. Why is that the only answer? Because still intentionally unanswered: how does gay marriage harm anyone. Gay marriage should be banned only because it is a classic example of being American – because it is socially innovative? Such innovation only hurts emotions of those who hate.

Clearly gay marriage harms no one. Clearly banning of gay marriage does harm some. Clearly this issue would be totally irrelevant if others did not so hate - gays and social innovation. Amazing how some so hate things that made America great. So we have an answer based in gobbledygook. Turkeys live!