Congrats and condolences to the Ruskies

Undertoad · 10-29-2002, 11:56 AM

Shuddup you two! Behave!

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Back from the thread hijacking, the gas that was used has now been identified, according to the Wash. Times. It was etorphine, otherwise known as M99, "a synthetic opiate more than 500 times as powerful as morphine and more than 250 times as powerful as heroin. The great danger with M99 is that the lethal dose is only a few (normally three to six, depending on the animal) times higher than the effective incapacitating dose."

The White House doesn't yet take the position that they know what gas was used, so this may not be correct. But news reports yesterday were speculating that the gas was an opiate of some sort.

It sounds like one of my guesses might have been wrong though. If this is the gas used, they did have an antidote, but didn't use it. But who knows what considerations were involved.

It bugs me to hear people second-guessing this action. When the shit hits the fan, who knows how long you've got to get your ducks in a row. Inactivity or just working on hope is a worse sin than going in and getting some of it wrong. I also think the second-guessers don't believe in the resolve of the terrorists.

One hostage was interviewed and said in broken english that the gas was the right thing to do, that otherwise everyone would have been killed.

10-29-2002, 11:56 AM	#16
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Shuddup you two! Behave! --- Back from the thread hijacking, the gas that was used has now been identified, according to the Wash. Times. It was etorphine, otherwise known as M99, "a synthetic opiate more than 500 times as powerful as morphine and more than 250 times as powerful as heroin. The great danger with M99 is that the lethal dose is only a few (normally three to six, depending on the animal) times higher than the effective incapacitating dose." The White House doesn't yet take the position that they know what gas was used, so this may not be correct. But news reports yesterday were speculating that the gas was an opiate of some sort. It sounds like one of my guesses might have been wrong though. If this is the gas used, they did have an antidote, but didn't use it. But who knows what considerations were involved. It bugs me to hear people second-guessing this action. When the shit hits the fan, who knows how long you've got to get your ducks in a row. Inactivity or just working on hope is a worse sin than going in and getting some of it wrong. I also think the second-guessers don't believe in the resolve of the terrorists. One hostage was interviewed and said in broken english that the gas was the right thing to do, that otherwise everyone would have been killed.

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