a well regulated militia

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Then how can they be trusted with the vote?

Zactly. Thats why i've always had leaning towards Plato and his enlightened dictatorship, pity such a thing is close to impossible.

Interesting, i doubt up the arguement you just put forward in my origional reply to urbane but forgot to rebut it hehehehe.

I'm still not buying that arguement though. For a start a few civvies with guns is not going to ahve any effective presence against an organised army (bloody sunday anyone?) The number i cannot see anywhere would be large enough to ahve an impact even if they were organised anyway. In the case of cambodia it certinaly didn't stop the Khmer Rouge getting weaponary either.

Half your country didn't bother to vote, its not just guns they're apathetic about.