What do you do Nov 3rd?

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I'm just trying to see how big a problem it is, at this time.

What about people arrested only because they had a video camera? A friend just told me his story of their trip to NYC. They were video tapping interesting cars, and just having fun. When they went through the Lincoln Tunnel, they were arrested by the NYPD. Because one had once heard a name (a name that was on a watch list- a name he had once heard on TV news), then they were all held for most of that day.

One of their tasks was to visit the Egyptian Embassy. They ended up only seeing the Lincoln Tunnel and an NYPD stationhouse. Their entire trip to NYC - and their one day off - was wasted only because they looked Arab and had been using a video camera.

The NYPD cop did apologize and even gave each his card so that they could call for help when it happened again.

How many immigrants are your friends. Too many of mine are being detained for nothing. After a program that required 80,000 immigrants to 'come in for a voluntary talk', not one terrorist was discovered. At what point do we acknowledge that FBI agents, when empowered to do their jobs pre-9/11, were more than sufficient to make America safe.

The system worked when a president read his memos - and gave federal employees warnings as to what to look for. The system worked when terrorist investigators such as John O'Neill were not driven from law enforcement for simply demanding facts; because the George Jr administration did not like his aggressive terrorist investigations. People like O'Neill were more than sufficient so many times to discover terrorist bombs all over the world. O'Neill even had the names of what would become 9/11 attackers.

Richard Clarke was this nation's #1 anti-terrorist in the White House. Even he was demoted by a president who could not bother to read blunt warnings about real world terrorists.

A new president never reads his memos - says that terrorism is not a major problem. He never puts out the warning in the 6 Aug Presidential Daily Briefing- even demotes his counter terrorism group from principle level. So instead we must now detain everyone who looks like a terrorist (also called racism)? What does a terrorist look like? Can you just look at evil and recognize it? When do we fix the real problem? When do we get a presidient who reads memos and makes his own decisions? Therein lies the problem.