Message from Fireman - Page 3

wolf · 05-15-2004, 12:43 AM

Welcome home!

zippyt · 05-15-2004, 11:10 AM

Welcome home dude , glad you made it safe and sound !!!!!!

F$%K those nasty ragheads. and to hell with that lady too.

Yehh , what he said !!!!!

DanaC · 05-15-2004, 03:15 PM

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ragheads

What a distasteful term

blue · 05-15-2004, 04:07 PM

Hey Fireman, I didn't see this thread when you were over there.

Thank you for your service. Don't sweat the idiots, what you and so many others did for this country is appreciated more than maybe you can imagine, especially by the quiet majority.

Whether you or those you come in contact with agree about the need for that war is irrelevant, you went, did your damn job and I'm glad you came home alive.

I am a former sailor who never saw combat, but have a hell of a lot of respect for you. Keep in mind you did us proud, hopefully are now done with what may have been the most difficult & dangerous period of your life.

Stand tall and enjoy the rest of your life.

blue · 05-15-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by DanaC

What a distasteful term

It's a distasteful world, and although I see your point, in the context of this thread I'm sure arabs with hurt feelings is not all that important.

We're after all the great satan, infidels, etc. Lighten up, we were welcoming someone home. My Dad was heavy with the nigger, jap, chink stuff but would be the first damn one to step forward if they ever needed a hand.

Words can be hurtful I'll grant you, but soldiers talk like this, people talk like this...not being PC doesn't make you a racist jerk.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-15-2004, 04:20 PM

If you run into another one of those nasty ladies, ask her who she voted for. If she says she didn't vote, punch her. If she says Bush, punch her. If she says Gore, punch her.

plthijinx · 05-15-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by blue58
My Dad was heavy with the nigger, jap, chink stuff but would be the first damn one to step forward if they ever needed a hand.

Words can be hurtful I'll grant you, but soldiers talk like this, people talk like this...not being PC doesn't make you a racist jerk.

my sentiments exactly. i'm not racist nor am i PC. when i read what happened to fireman, it really, REALLY, pissed me off.

richlevy · 05-15-2004, 04:57 PM

Welcome back Fireman. I don't blame you or any serviceman or woman for this war. You guys signed on to defend the Constitution. Too bad you didn't realize it was going to be the Iraqi Constitution.

I prefer to start blaming people at the top then work my way down, which for some reason doesn't seem fashionable these days considering the public seems to accept any enlisted scapegoat thrown their way and walk away satisfied.

I hope things get resolved before your turnaround.

blue · 05-15-2004, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
If you run into another one of those nasty ladies, ask her who she voted for. If she says she didn't vote, punch her. If she says Bush, punch her. If she says Gore, punch her.

Are you drinking or something tonight? You're fucking cracking me up.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-15-2004, 05:27 PM

No, just had a visit from an ex-girlfriend, that married someone else a month ago, is all.

wolf · 05-16-2004, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by DanaC

What a distasteful term

You're right. Raghead can apply to many cultures that wear headcoverings, including turbans. The more appropriate term is "Sand Nigger."

OnyxCougar · 05-16-2004, 11:31 AM

It's not about being PC, it's about being derogatory to a whole group of individuals based upon the actions of a few.

All those racial epithets are used in a derogatory manner. So what if they call us "Great Satan"? That's NOT jusitification to label all Iraqis or Arabs "Sand Niggers" or "Ragheads". That's the very same thing as labelling all people that serve in our armed forces "baby killers". It's doing the very same thing that woman did to Fireman. I refuse to sink to that level.

Yes, they are just words. But more than the words is the way people use them. The intent. *shrug* I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else, just that I think using those terms are insultive. And insulting a whole race or nationality of people is ignorant to me.

DanaC · 05-16-2004, 12:59 PM

Well said Onyx

OnyxCougar · 05-16-2004, 02:13 PM

I am flattered really. No really Dana. Coming from you that means a lot.

DanaC · 05-16-2004, 06:53 PM

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I am flattered really. No really Dana. Coming from you that means a lot.

Touche

05-15-2004, 12:43 AM	#31
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05-15-2004, 11:10 AM	#32
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Welcome home dude , glad you made it safe and sound !!!!!! F$%K those nasty ragheads. and to hell with that lady too. Yehh , what he said !!!!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

05-15-2004, 04:07 PM	#34
blue Operations Operative Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern WI Posts: 739	Hey Fireman, I didn't see this thread when you were over there. Thank you for your service. Don't sweat the idiots, what you and so many others did for this country is appreciated more than maybe you can imagine, especially by the quiet majority. Whether you or those you come in contact with agree about the need for that war is irrelevant, you went, did your damn job and I'm glad you came home alive. I am a former sailor who never saw combat, but have a hell of a lot of respect for you. Keep in mind you did us proud, hopefully are now done with what may have been the most difficult & dangerous period of your life. Stand tall and enjoy the rest of your life. __________________ If you spot a tornado, always remember to point at it, yell "tornado!", and run like hell.

05-15-2004, 04:20 PM	#36
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If you run into another one of those nasty ladies, ask her who she voted for. If she says she didn't vote, punch her. If she says Bush, punch her. If she says Gore, punch her. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-15-2004, 04:57 PM	#38
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Welcome back Fireman. I don't blame you or any serviceman or woman for this war. You guys signed on to defend the Constitution. Too bad you didn't realize it was going to be the Iraqi Constitution. I prefer to start blaming people at the top then work my way down, which for some reason doesn't seem fashionable these days considering the public seems to accept any enlisted scapegoat thrown their way and walk away satisfied. I hope things get resolved before your turnaround. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

05-15-2004, 05:27 PM	#40
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No, just had a visit from an ex-girlfriend, that married someone else a month ago, is all. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-16-2004, 11:31 AM	#42
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	It's not about being PC, it's about being derogatory to a whole group of individuals based upon the actions of a few. All those racial epithets are used in a derogatory manner. So what if they call us "Great Satan"? That's NOT jusitification to label all Iraqis or Arabs "Sand Niggers" or "Ragheads". That's the very same thing as labelling all people that serve in our armed forces "baby killers". It's doing the very same thing that woman did to Fireman. I refuse to sink to that level. Yes, they are just words. But more than the words is the way people use them. The intent. shrug I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else, just that I think using those terms are insultive. And insulting a whole race or nationality of people is ignorant to me.

05-16-2004, 12:59 PM	#43
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well said Onyx

05-16-2004, 02:13 PM	#44
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I am flattered really. No really Dana. Coming from you that means a lot.

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