What scares the f*ck out of you? - Page 2

Griff · 03-25-2015, 06:10 AM

I'm sure the birthers will be consistent on this one.

Lamplighter · 03-25-2015, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

I'm sure the birthers will be consistent on this one.

I agree.
After all, Hillary was born and raised in Chicago,
and that's where Obama comes from too.

That can't be just a coincidence.

classicman · 03-25-2015, 04:52 PM

Srsly, I don't like any of the "potential candidates" right now at all. In a country of 300,000,000 the best we got is another Clinton and Bush? We R Suck.

DanaC · 03-25-2015, 05:45 PM

The system as it is, is not a meritocracy - so no: they are not the best you have. They are just what you have.

Lamplighter · 03-25-2015, 07:49 PM

w^Dana^s

So, follow Dr Phil's advice
... Figure out what each one has done in the past,
... Expect them to do the same in the future.
... Then decide which comes the closest to what you would want.

It does no good to just complain about not having the perfect candidate.

( This is why I have to be a dick )

xoxoxoBruce · 03-26-2015, 01:22 AM

Nobody would want to suffer the slings and arrows of higher office if it weren't for an overblown ego and /or an ulterior motive.

DanaC · 03-26-2015, 06:03 AM

I disagree - 'nobody' is too absolute. There are and will always be a small number of people in political office, even at the higher echelons, who are true believers with a strong desire for civic service.

But they are, and always will be, outnumbered by those motivated by personal ambition, tribal or corporate influence, greed, and/or self-regard.

And both seem outnumbered by those who combine elements of the two.

Griff · 03-26-2015, 06:23 AM

I generally get more pissed about the stuff politicians get wrong than pleased with the things they get right. I suspect I'm not the only one. It isn't a great atmosphere to work in for normal people.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-26-2015, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

I disagree - 'nobody' is too absolute. There are and will always be a small number of people in political office, even at the higher echelons, who are true believers with a strong desire for civic service.

But they are, and always will be, outnumbered by those motivated by personal ambition, tribal or corporate influence, greed, and/or self-regard.

And both seem outnumbered by those who combine elements of the two.

Altruism doesn't make it past local politics over here.
Any office above that (county, state, national), are candidates who are ~~bought & paid for~~ "guided".

Griff · 03-26-2015, 08:27 PM

BIG D AND THE KIDS TABLE LYRICS
"Try Out Your Voice"
I was talking to a young man at a party in these war days
And he asked me my thoughts
I talked about peace, fighting for the people,
he scowled then walked away
Told me my views are fucked

We screamed, we cried, the message has amplified
But they won't hear the people's voice
We scream, we cry, the message has amplified
But they won't hear the people's voice
Come on suits it's time to show us something
You know it's time for better days
Come on suits it's time to show us something
Just get your hearts out front, and prove you're something

Remember being proud, remember feeling loved,
remember when leaders gave sacrifice
I believe all men don't have a price
Truth in the state of the union address
Truth in this political process
I should not have to sing for this

We screamed, we cried, the message has amplified
But they won't hear the people's voice
We scream, we cry, the message has amplified
But they won't hear the people's voice
Come on suits it's time to show us something
You know it's time for better days
Come on suits it's time to show us something
Just get your hearts out front, and prove you're something
Try out your voice, now use it, now use it, we are the people
Try out your voice, now use it, now use it, we are the people
Try out your voice, now use it, now use it, we are the people
Try out your voice, try out your voice, just try out your voice
Now use it, now use it, we are the people

classicman · 03-27-2015, 05:13 PM

You THINK you have to be a dick because you THINK you are morally or ethically or some other bullshit better than or smarter than others. You are wrong.
You have to be for only one reason, because you are.

glatt · 03-27-2015, 05:21 PM

?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-27-2015, 08:15 PM

Refers back to post 20, glatt.

Lamplighter · 03-27-2015, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

...You have to be for only one reason, because you are.

Yeah, and it's a hard life.

Gravdigr · 03-28-2015, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

Srsly, I don't like any of the "potential candidates" right now at all. In a country of 300,000,000 the best we got is another Clinton and Bush? We R Suck.

You know what you are supposed to do in this situation, don't you?

Run. For election, or, away.

03-25-2015, 06:10 AM	#16
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I'm sure the birthers will be consistent on this one. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-25-2015, 04:52 PM	#18
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Srsly, I don't like any of the "potential candidates" right now at all. In a country of 300,000,000 the best we got is another Clinton and Bush? We R Suck. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-26-2015, 01:22 AM	#21
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Nobody would want to suffer the slings and arrows of higher office if it weren't for an overblown ego and /or an ulterior motive. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-26-2015, 06:23 AM	#23
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I generally get more pissed about the stuff politicians get wrong than pleased with the things they get right. I suspect I'm not the only one. It isn't a great atmosphere to work in for normal people. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-26-2015, 08:27 PM	#25
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	BIG D AND THE KIDS TABLE LYRICS "Try Out Your Voice" I was talking to a young man at a party in these war days And he asked me my thoughts I talked about peace, fighting for the people, he scowled then walked away Told me my views are fucked We screamed, we cried, the message has amplified But they won't hear the people's voice We scream, we cry, the message has amplified But they won't hear the people's voice Come on suits it's time to show us something You know it's time for better days Come on suits it's time to show us something Just get your hearts out front, and prove you're something Remember being proud, remember feeling loved, remember when leaders gave sacrifice I believe all men don't have a price Truth in the state of the union address Truth in this political process I should not have to sing for this We screamed, we cried, the message has amplified But they won't hear the people's voice We scream, we cry, the message has amplified But they won't hear the people's voice Come on suits it's time to show us something You know it's time for better days Come on suits it's time to show us something Just get your hearts out front, and prove you're something Try out your voice, now use it, now use it, we are the people Try out your voice, now use it, now use it, we are the people Try out your voice, now use it, now use it, we are the people Try out your voice, try out your voice, just try out your voice Now use it, now use it, we are the people __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-25-2015, 07:49 PM	#20
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	w^Dana^s So, follow Dr Phil's advice ... Figure out what each one has done in the past, ... Expect them to do the same in the future. ... Then decide which comes the closest to what you would want. It does no good to just complain about not having the perfect candidate. ( This is why I have to be a dick )

03-27-2015, 05:13 PM	#26
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	You THINK you have to be a dick because you THINK you are morally or ethically or some other bullshit better than or smarter than others. You are wrong. You have to be for only one reason, because you are. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-27-2015, 05:21 PM	#27
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	?

03-27-2015, 08:15 PM	#28
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Refers back to post 20, glatt. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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