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Old 12-10-2012, 11:52 AM   #46
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I feel ashamed that Ortho, as sick as she is, is trying to exercise. Here I am, healthy as an ox, am as lazy as a pig. So, I dragged my fat arse this morning to walk-and-jog for 35 mins. Ortho, thank you, my dear.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:05 PM   #47
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Any time
Now I have to drag myself to the fitness room this afternoon! But then, that's what this thread is for ..
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:08 PM   #48
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The solar calendar is for the daytime and the lunar calendar is for at night, right?
No, at the same time like yin yang.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:38 PM   #49
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No, at the same time like yin yang.
Be careful, Yin and Yang at the same time can beget the ten thousand things.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:58 PM   #50
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I was thinking for a witty response, but none...hehe. Ten thousand things?!!? The whole universe is already formed, that's more than 10 thousand things.

Hey, Foot, I never knew you're a Buddhist. How are you practicing? Which texts are you reading? Just curious.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:54 PM   #51
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As the Squirell, he mentioned something here. He'll have to tell you where he is at now.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:07 PM   #52
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I'll have to take a break from working out for a day or so ... have had a nasty right-sided chest pain for the past two days. Probably a pulled muscle or something to do with my lat transfer; have to get it checked out. Hopefully it's not a blood clot. Whatever it is, it interferes with sleep, moving, breathing ... ow ow ow.

Could my yin and yang be fighting? Maybe one of them needs to knock it off.
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:10 AM   #53
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Sorry to hear about the pain, Ortho. Take it easy, don't overdo things. I hope it's nothing serious. As for me, yeah, haven't exercised for two days.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:51 PM   #54
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Myfitnesspal. I've recently loaded the app on my phone and I love it.

I intend lose weight, and like that elephant recipe in the OP, it's only done one bite at a time. f3, I'm sorry you were frustrated by the food part of the interface. I know what you mean, it is very tedious to enter all that information--BUT--totally, totally worth it, to me.

I've been using it for a couple weeks now and here's what I've learned. I LOVE food, well, I knew that before but anyhow. I love to eat. I USED to eat in response to certain stimuli, satiety be chief among them. I would wait to eat sometimes, then come to the kitchen *hungry*, and eat until I wasn't hungry anymore. This works great, for satisfying hunger; losing weight, not so much. I would also eat in response to stress, time of day (habit), boredom, etc. This is normal, I guess, but it wasn't producing good results--I've gained too much weight. Now I have a new parameter to guide my food intake.

To be sure, I still have the old habits, but they're not as strong, and my new awareness of just how much food that really is, specifically, just how many calories I'm putting into my body is sobering. No wonder I was gaining weight. NOW I know (only because I took the trouble to actually record it, let's face it, my body's "recording" it, right?) what I'm taking in, or about to take in and what that means for my greater goal of losing weight. I know now that that little snack has a cost. I know now the difference between two pieces of cheese pizza and three pieces. I agree with you that the data entry is fiddly--at the beginning. It does "remember" the foods you have entered and you usually only have to look it up once. It also has a very extensive library of foods available to you via scanning the UPC code (one really good reason for using it on your phone instead of on your desktop or laptop computer. you have it right there.)

Now I find myself looking at the number of calories "allotted" to me by the calculation of the program, and working within that number. That new parameter is one that made a difference before, but I was completely oblivious to it. Now I'm not. It slows me down, and that has a temporary negative effect on my race to satiety, boo fucking hoo. But it has a much greater positive effect on my efforts toward my greater goal of losing weight.

I was eating too much relative to the amount of calorie burning I was doing. This tool gives me a much better idea of what I'm eating giving me a chance to respond accordingly, not just to hunger, habit, boredom, stress, etc.

Additionally, it has an element to it that lets you record your physical activity "Cardiovascular", so it's not only about what you eat. Actually, I use a competing product to record my exercise, Noom Cardio Trainer, principally because it records maps of where I exercise. I don't belong to a gym, I ride my bike or walk or hike and it tracks where I go and overlays the track on a map. I like that. I then take the calories burned calculated by that app and plug in the activity and the calories into myfitnesspal.

I've been using it for a couple weeks now, erratically at first, especially with the food entry aspect, but now I'm much more consistent. I'm better at it, much of what I habitually eat is there already, I know the interface, etc etc. Absolutely worth the initially steep learning curve. Now that I've got some momentum on my fitness, I'm looking for some pals.

Youse guyz are my friends, right? (don't all shout at once). If you'd like to be myfitnesspal, please send me a PM, and we'll connect.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:23 AM   #55
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No, no Lutefisk.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:35 AM   #56
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I have not been involved in MFP, at all, since I signed up. It took way too much of my over-scheduled brain to even deal with it, and it felt like yet another obligation that ultimately served only as fodder for my self-loathing.

So I've decided to spend my mental and emotional energy on more pressing matters. So MFP will have to wait for me in the wings.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:13 AM   #57
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I find it helpful for keeping track of calories. Scary how fast you get to (past) 1200 and I need less than that to lose weight. The only weight loss plan that has ever worked for me is: Stay Hungry.

Still haven't recovered from a workout 10 days ago. I think I hurt my cells.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:33 AM   #58
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I'm not a doctor, but I'd say your workouts ought to be scaled back to some gentle yoga and serious napping. 1200 calories? I hope you are 5'-2" That's not so many calories. Hunger is good, though.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:39 AM   #59
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I like your workout prescription! Right about now I could win the World Napping Championship.

I'm 5'7". Just an easy keeper; I come from a line of skinny lowland Scots. I was one, until steroids .
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:20 AM   #60
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Doesn't the steroid weight drop off after you've gone off them? And is it fat or just a whole bunch of fluid? Do the steroids slow down your metabolism or change your body's utilization of calories? (I think there's a difference between slow metabolism and conversion to fat rather than energy, or is it the same thing?)

What's an "easy keeper?"
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