Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

There's another necessity: not artificially circumscribing the size of the region in which insurers compete, but opening it nationwide and even wider will improve the scope and effect of competition among companies and plans. You know what that means for consumers.

While it could be written in a way that would benefit consumers, it would probalby be written in a way that would allow all insurance companies to move to the state that protects consumers the least, and then let the consumers buy their policies "across state lines" from that one state.

[TheMercenary]

It is designed to make insurance companies a boat load of money. That is the deal Obama made to get them to buy in.... In the end they will be rich.

[Happy Monkey]

Unless we can get past the cries of "socialism!" to single payer in the end.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

In the end they will be richer.

FTFY

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Unless we can get past the cries of "socialism!" to single payer in the end.

That will never happen, any move towards single payer is a move towards "socialism", check the UK and ask them how that is working out for them. Or how about Canada?

[Happy Monkey]

Better than here, for both.

[TheMercenary]

You like failure?

[Happy Monkey]

If they're failing, I like their failure better than ours.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

If they're failing, I like their failure better than ours.

Cool! when are you moving! We really could use you to move off the dole over here. You know, make room for someone who really needs it...

[DanaC]

NHS works fine most of the time for most of the people.

Private care is available to those with the money and desire.

The only thing hurting the NHS right now are the current government's plans to privatise great chunks of it.

If someone is horrifically ill, it isn't going to bankrupt them as well as distress them.

[ZenGum]

Ditto here.

The flaw in our system is the (moderately right) coalition government we had a few years back made private health insurance tax deductible, to try to keep people off the public system. Not in itself a bad idea, but it costs far more in lost tax revenue than it saves in reduced public hospital costs. We would get more bang for our buck if we just gave the money to the hospitals. But you try cutting middle-class welfare and see what happens at the next election.

[TheMercenary]

HOW is that working out in Mass, right now? Report card anyone????

[BigV]

Why is our health care so expensive?

[ZenGum]

Lawyers.


Seriously. Lots of tests you probably didn't need, bloated administration, overpriced proprietary drugs, and a metric shitload of malpractice insurance.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Lawyers.


Seriously. Lots of tests you probably didn't need, bloated administration, overpriced proprietary drugs, and a metric shitload of malpractice insurance.

This.

Also your healthcare is run on a for-profit model. At every level. Remove the profit margins from the various different stages of healthcare and you'll see costs drop.