Wild West Politics? - Page 7

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Ya know...that's a really fine line and total bullshit. If someones says they have a gun and will use it, they need to be taken seriously...the fear of violence is there.

Yea, that is why you should call the police if someone says that to you so you can have the threat documented and file charges agains the person who is threatening you. If you don't, it is on you.

I really don't consider it a "fine line and total bullshit".

wolf · 01-09-2011, 03:07 PM

We have less than 2% seriously and persistently mentally ill (off the top of my head).

About 10% of people have some diagnosable form of mental illness over the course of their lives.

Pico and ME · 01-09-2011, 03:14 PM

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No. And no I don't believe that politicians are using "rhetoric involving threats of violence"

Merc, what do you suppose saying 'second amendment remedy' means? Or saying 'armed and dangerous' in the same sentence with 'Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing'.

Nirvana · 01-09-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

We have less than 2% seriously and persistently mentally ill (off the top of my head).

About 10% of people have some diagnosable form of mental illness over the course of their lives.

Are they republican or democrat?

Pico and ME · 01-09-2011, 03:23 PM

Ok. Time for me to take a breather from this.

Sheldonrs · 01-09-2011, 03:26 PM

Even if he hadn't shot all those people, even if it never happened, posting on-line rifle cross-hairs over "target" election sites and political opponants like Palin did was stupid, provocative and dangerous.
She and her spokesperson can claim it was never meant to represent rifle crosshairs but only a complete moron could think they were anything else.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 03:35 PM

Oh they were cross hairs, but to claim that she meant it as a way to incite a violent act is BS.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Merc, what do you suppose saying 'second amendment remedy' means?

Sounds like someone co-opting and perverting their perception of what the Second Amendment actually says in an effort to add emphasis to a point of protest. Do I believe they are actually carrying a gun or are going to try to overthrow the government using armed force? No.

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Or saying 'armed and dangerous' in the same sentence with 'Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing'.

Sounds like people who are using their First Amendment right to make the point that historically, if TJ actually said such a thing, that they are willing to support armed revolt if the government continues down the path they disagree with. Do I think they would do it? No. They are doing what many people do with signs at political rallies, they are drawing attention to their point of view.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-09-2011, 06:33 PM

There's no way you can convince me this guy isn't making a threat, that he isn't trying to intimidate anyone that opposes him.

Personally, I don't take the threat seriously, because he, even with a hundred buddies, can't do it. Not with a thousand, not with a hundred thousand. The government, no matter which party is in charge, would crush them like grapes.

Besides, I know this is all a diversion, a dog & pony show. Something to distract you from what's really going on, while Big Money, through Karl Rove and the lobbyists, subvert our system in a meaningful, probably irreparable way.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 07:17 PM

You forgot to mention Haliburton....

tw · 01-09-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Actually I believe that is a crime in most states if you can prove that the fear of violence is real.

Post a threat here to kill the president and see how much proof the Secret Service really needs. Your 1st Amendment rights are worth trampled beans if you also do not use it responsibly.

Meanwhile, history says the nutjobs come from everywhere once extremists start promoting hate. But then Likud really did not mean to have Rabin assassinated. Likud were just calling for it repeatedly and it accidentally happened. That is your logic. And I guess you are sticking to it.

tw · 01-09-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

We have less than 2% seriously and persistently mentally ill (off the top of my head).

Wow. Vaccinations did that much damage?

tw · 01-09-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

... posting on-line rifle cross-hairs over "target" election sites and political opponants like Palin did was stupid, provocative and dangerous.

Nonsense. It was intentional. It is how nutjobs are inspired. It was not stupid. It was intentional. Extremists love promoting that kind of hate. And, like Likud, then deny that was their intent.

Mafia godfathers wish they could get people killed that easily. But then the mafia only does it for money. Extremists do it for hate.

tw · 01-09-2011, 07:45 PM

How many automatic weapons are required to take out the Westboro Baptist Church. And its not my fault when it accidentally happens.

Undertoad · 01-09-2011, 07:48 PM

One bullet to the head of Fred. If talking about it caused this to happen, he would be a dead man long ago and would continue to be dug up and shot every few weeks.

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01-09-2011, 03:26 PM	#96
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	Even if he hadn't shot all those people, even if it never happened, posting on-line rifle cross-hairs over "target" election sites and political opponants like Palin did was stupid, provocative and dangerous. She and her spokesperson can claim it was never meant to represent rifle crosshairs but only a complete moron could think they were anything else. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

01-09-2011, 03:35 PM	#97
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Oh they were cross hairs, but to claim that she meant it as a way to incite a violent act is BS. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-09-2011, 06:33 PM	#99
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	There's no way you can convince me this guy isn't making a threat, that he isn't trying to intimidate anyone that opposes him. Personally, I don't take the threat seriously, because he, even with a hundred buddies, can't do it. Not with a thousand, not with a hundred thousand. The government, no matter which party is in charge, would crush them like grapes. Besides, I know this is all a diversion, a dog & pony show. Something to distract you from what's really going on, while Big Money, through Karl Rove and the lobbyists, subvert our system in a meaningful, probably irreparable way. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-09-2011, 07:17 PM	#100
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	You forgot to mention Haliburton.... __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-09-2011, 03:23 PM	#95
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Ok. Time for me to take a breather from this.

01-09-2011, 07:45 PM	#104
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	How many automatic weapons are required to take out the Westboro Baptist Church. And its not my fault when it accidentally happens.

01-09-2011, 07:48 PM	#105
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	One bullet to the head of Fred. If talking about it caused this to happen, he would be a dead man long ago and would continue to be dug up and shot every few weeks.

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