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Old 08-31-2010, 07:41 PM   #661
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A high-level inquiry into the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found there was “little evidence” for its claims about global warming.
Last time, classicman cited a Tsonis paper claiming global cooling exists. classicman forgot to mention his conclusion was not in that research. But when one is told how to think, facts are ignored. The entire paper was a about a non-linear math analysis – chaos theory. How did it prove global cooling? It didn’t. That did not stop Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, and extremists here from hyping attacks.

A controversy with one study proves thousands of other studies are all wrong? Yes, if one tainted paper proves a political agenda. You are again perverting reality just as you did with "Tsonis’ paper is about non-linear mathematics in weather simulations – not about a conclusion from an unproven simulation. Funny how a political agenda never bothered to notice the difference. ".

Why did you so avidly hype that paper as proof of global cooling? Then go so strangely quiet once the paper’s contents were quoted?

Hate of Islam. Perversion of science. Saddam's WMDs. Trying to get into war with China over a silly spy plane. Subverting the American economy to enrich the rich and lower American's income by 2%. Making Wall Street fraud legal. All but protecting bin Laden. Constant cheapshots at Obama. Destruction of America’s manned space program. Blaming Obama for your hate promoted by wacko extremism. My god. You even advocated putting social security into the stock market.. At what point do you learn reality before spouting wacko extremist rhetoric? At what point do you first learn science before knowing something? You would even take emails out of context to promote your agenda.

Methodology in that IPC study is suspect. Nothing more. Thousands of other studies confirm global warming. Including sudden increases in ocean acidity directly traceable to oceans now absorbing so much CO2 – that you say does not exist. You even claimed global cooling is ongoing because wackos (and even one Oklahoma(?) Senator) told you what to believe.

No wonder you avidly advocate hate of Muslims in Lower Manhattan. No wonder a government from 2000 to 2008 did so much harm to America for a political agenda. At what point do you apologize for so much damage done by wacko extremism? At what point do you apologize for the 4,400 American soldiers who died for extremist beliefs? So you now invent another enemy - IPC.

classicman avidly promoted that Tsonis paper as proof that global warming does not exist. He was left to hang himself for a few days. Then the paper’s contents were provided. Suddenly classicman went quiet. Would not discuss it anymore. Strange how he never bothers to learn facts. Strange how he so quickly recited wacko extremist mantra. He is doing it again under orders from Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, and other extremists. No wonder the Cellar has been so full of Muslim hate.

Tsonis proved global cooling exists. You could not bother to first learn facts? Only point of the IPC study is the methodology behind that one study. How quickly you cite one paper – and ignore results from thousands that demonstrate why your political agenda is about spin, lies, and propaganda.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:45 PM   #662
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This famous "marketplace" will eventually settle this issue.

People who believe there is no such a thing as global warming
will start buying property on low-lying coastlines, while the believers will start selling.

Maybe the people of Bangladesh, Republic of Marshall Islands,
the Maldives, Tuvalu, Kiribati and other small island states will finally get rich.

... or Denver is going to have one heck of a population explosion.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:58 PM   #663
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People who believe there is no such a thing as global warming
will start buying property on low-lying coastlines, while the believers will start selling.
With intelligible numbers (and that means research subverted by White House lawyers), we could make a killing on the options market. Maybe that is why so many preach confusion. Options can be very profitable when facts and reality are elusive.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:43 PM   #664
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Evidence that contradicts the ruling belief system is held to extraordinary standards, while evidence that entrenches it is uncritically accepted. -Carl Sagan

For proof see the above personal attack filled with lies half-truths and additional outright fallacies, misconceptions and misrepresentations.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:46 PM   #665
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Evidence that contradicts the ruling belief system is held to extraordinary standards, while evidence that entrenches it is uncritically accepted. -Carl Sagan
Ruling belief system: global warming is a hoax.
Extraordinary standards: 100% of all scientists (and people who can be quoted as if they were scientists) must agree, or there isn't consensus.
Uncritically accepted: the occasional study that can be (sometimes mis)interpreted as casting doubt.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:58 PM   #666
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you got it backwards ...
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:06 AM   #667
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Classic what does CO2 do in the atmosphere?
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:00 AM   #668
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:31 AM   #669
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you got it backwards ...
In what respect?

The extraordinary standard that the global warming deniers are using is that no matter how lopsided the evidence is, it's not conclusive as long as they can find someone (preferably with a PhD) to deny it.

What extraordinary standard are opposing studies held up to? Sure, they will be scrutinized more; Sagan had human nature correct. But any extraordinary standard in the scientific community pales in comparison to that which the deniers use.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:58 AM   #670
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Oh dear, HM.

Attacking the science is the correct approach.

Attacking the believers, on either side, is not.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:59 AM   #671
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Classic what does CO2 do in the atmosphere?
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:00 AM   #672
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Classic what does CO2 do in the atmosphere?
How technical an answer do you want?
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:01 AM   #673
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:02 AM   #674
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With scientific data piling up showing that the world has reached its hottest-ever point in recorded history, global-warming skeptics are facing a high-profile defection from their ranks. Bjorn Lomborg, author of the influential tract "The Skeptical Environmentalist," has reversed course on the urgency of global warming, and is now calling for action on "a challenge humanity must confront."
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:05 AM   #675
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You calling me a beast? Hardly...
No, not at all.
No evil intended.

It was the posting number on this thread.
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