Al Franken...is this for real?

[TheMercenary]

There are plenty of articles out there to support what I have been saying here.

Pelosi didn't share the president's dream of brotherly love breaking out in the Capitol. She was in charge, this was her bill and she would decide what was in it. To the ire of Republicans, and some Democrats, Pelosi maneuvered to put the stimulus package on an emergency fast track, cutting short debate on the bill and cutting Republicans out of the discussion. "I believe the president was absolutely sincere in looking for a bipartisan outcome," Dent says. "But the White House lost control of the process when the bill was outsourced to Pelosi."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/186961

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

In the words of a wise dweller...."good grief, let it go"

I am gonna sit back in the shadows and watch and lurk and see all there is to see and predict bad things for all to read until something comes of it and then what will you say? Huh?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

So are you saying that scene wasn't real then?

I think worrying about our elections is very relevant, considering how fucked up they have been for the past eight years. You think I'm stupid for wanting to fix that? All righty then. I guess you don't really believe in democracy...

Do you think they are suddenly fucked up or is that just because you don't support who was in office at the time?

And if they were fucked up for the last 8 years then the election of Obamy must have been fucked up too? Right? Or are they not fucked up because you are ok that he won, even with all the fuckeduptedness in our election process?

Shutting down ACORN will be a big improvement.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

There are plenty of articles out there to support what I have been saying here.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/186961

Go to the source...the House rules on the 2010 budget proposal....and point out the lack of transparency that includes several substitute Republican proposals...that are more restrictive than any previous rules.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Go to the source...the House rules on the 2010 budget proposal....and point out the lack of transparency that includes several substitute Republican proposals...that are more restrictive than any previous rules.

So you are still going to ignore the facts about how business is actually being done by Pelosi and the Dems, not what they say they are going to do.

I don't really care what the Republickins are doing or not doing. They are not in charge.

The facts are in the House rules....including a Republican substitute proposal...equal time for debate on amendments..etc.

Republicans are bitching about a limit on amendments, which is hardly anything new....that has been the case with all recent House rules or the minority could stall the budget proposal for ever if they so desired.

In fact, there were more amendments allowed in the Budget committees this year than previous years.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

The facts are in the House rules....including a Republican substitute proposal...equal time for debate on amendments..etc.

Republicans are bitching about a limit on amendments, which is hardly anything new....that has been the case with all recent House rules or the minority could stall the budget proposal for ever if they so desired.

In fact, there were more amendments allowed in the Budget committees this year than previous years.

That was fun... and maybe you learned something about the budget process...or you might if you take the time to read source information rather than editorials only

[TheMercenary]

It was fun.... watching you try to cover for Pelosi's shenanigans as she and all the other apologist try to claim otherwise.

[sugarpop]

yes, but we are a democratic republic.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It was fun.... watching you try to cover for Pelosi's shenanigans as she and all the other apologist try to claim otherwise.

My deal still holds.

I wont cite any editorials, blogs or other questionable sources as undisputed factual information if you dont.

I have no problem sticking to primary source information when the discussion calls for facts and not opinions.

Let me know if you wanna play by those rules...but it will limit your bullshit

[Aliantha]

Redux, you should know by now that there's no limit to Merc's bullshit.

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Redux, you should know by now that there's no limit to Merc's bullshit.

I propose a button for the Cellar....to automatically lock a person out of a discussion if 3 (5, 10?) other members press the button!

[xoxoxoBruce]

[Aliantha]

I think we do have a bullshit sign.

Yep, there it is.