Al Franken...is this for real? - Page 17

Happy Monkey · 03-12-2009, 06:14 PM

You're a hacker working for Franken's campaign! I want a do-over! [/Coleman]

Happy Monkey · 03-12-2009, 06:15 PM

On a serious note,

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I downloaded the data and looked at it in Excel, just to see if I could.

just now, or when the story broke?

Happy Monkey · 03-12-2009, 06:22 PM

A very interesting take on the ramifications of the leak:

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On the other hand, Schultz poses a very interesting scenario, one that could bring the entire appeals process to a crashing halt and force the granting of a certificate of election.

The election-contest proceeding operates under a loser-pays system -- so if Coleman loses, his campaign committee would have to pay all the legal costs of Team Franken. Those numbers aren't publicly available, but Schultz estimates it at anywhere between $1-3 million.

And it's also normal procedure in such civil cases, Schultz explains, for a losing party that appeals to then be served a court order requiring them to place in escrow the amount for which they are currently liable. So if Franken's lawyers are smart people -- and nobody would doubt that they are -- Schultz sees it as very likely that they would seek to force Coleman's committee to procure millions of dollars up front just so they could start an appeal. ...

And after some additional legal wrangling, a decision like this could effectively end it: "A one-two combination of asking for the escrow, and having the money dry up because of the credit-card problem, that could very well dictate how far he goes."

classicman · 03-12-2009, 06:27 PM

or it could prevent someone without the assets who is wrong from filing an appeal. It doesn't apply in this case, but I do not want someones ability to pay to impede what is right.

TGRR · 03-12-2009, 06:41 PM

Is Coleman STILL whining?

Undertoad · 03-12-2009, 06:41 PM

When the story broke. Everything was up on Wikileaks.

Happy Monkey · 03-31-2009, 03:58 PM

Looks like we'll get the final count on April 7. Then it's off to the MN Supreme Court.

classicman · 03-31-2009, 04:05 PM

Finally. Does he get to serve and extra 3 months at the end?

Happy Monkey · 03-31-2009, 04:27 PM

Three months? The Republicans are going to fight tooth and nail to make sure Franken doesn't get seated until it's been through the Federal courts. We could be talking years if the courts, governor, and/or Senate allow it.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Finally. Does he get to serve and extra 3 months at the end?

I would hope not.

classicman · 03-31-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Three months? We could be talking years.

That is friggin ridiculous - We'd/They'd have been better off with a reelection. Coin flip, draw straws, swords, cage match or a duel. Hey, that would mean one less politician either way... I like the duel idea best.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

That is friggin ridiculous - We'd/They'd have been better off with a reelection. Coin flip, draw straws, swords, cage match or a duel. Hey, that would mean one less politician either way... I like the duel idea best.

I vote for the duel as well. I will fully respect and accept the winner. Anything less and it is politics as usual.

TGRR · 03-31-2009, 07:58 PM

Is this nonsense STILL going on?

sugarpop · 03-31-2009, 09:46 PM

YES. And if democrats did this, republicans would have them for breakfast. Coleman needs to STOP and admit defeat. This is about republicans keeping a democrat from being seated in order to disrupt Obama's plans. They think if they can keep him out long enough, they have a better chance. Fucking republicans would eat their young if it would help them politically.

TGRR · 03-31-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

YES. And if democrats did this, republicans would have them for breakfast. Coleman needs to STOP and admit defeat.

I disagree. This should happen more often. About a hundred times more often, over the next 6 years.

03-12-2009, 06:14 PM	#241
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	You're a hacker working for Franken's campaign! I want a do-over! [/Coleman] __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-12-2009, 06:27 PM	#244
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	or it could prevent someone without the assets who is wrong from filing an appeal. It doesn't apply in this case, but I do not want someones ability to pay to impede what is right. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-12-2009, 06:41 PM	#245
TGRR Horrible Bastard Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: High Desert, Arizona Posts: 1,103	Is Coleman STILL whining? __________________ What can we do to help you stop screaming?

03-31-2009, 03:58 PM	#247
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Looks like we'll get the final count on April 7. Then it's off to the MN Supreme Court. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-31-2009, 04:05 PM	#248
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Finally. Does he get to serve and extra 3 months at the end? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-12-2009, 06:41 PM	#246
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	When the story broke. Everything was up on Wikileaks.

03-31-2009, 04:27 PM	#249
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Three months? The Republicans are going to fight tooth and nail to make sure Franken doesn't get seated until it's been through the Federal courts. We could be talking years if the courts, governor, and/or Senate allow it. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-31-2009, 07:58 PM	#253
TGRR Horrible Bastard Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: High Desert, Arizona Posts: 1,103	Is this nonsense STILL going on? __________________ What can we do to help you stop screaming?

03-31-2009, 09:46 PM	#254
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	YES. And if democrats did this, republicans would have them for breakfast. Coleman needs to STOP and admit defeat. This is about republicans keeping a democrat from being seated in order to disrupt Obama's plans. They think if they can keep him out long enough, they have a better chance. Fucking republicans would eat their young if it would help them politically.

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