How Obama got elected - Page 2

smoothmoniker · 11-19-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

I think that's where they need to be to win, but I don't know if that timeframe is do-able.

If the Obamanator can't deliver on his big promises, if the democratic congress descends into petty squabbles and turf warfare, and especially if the ongoing economic depression moves people to a more self-sufficient, fiscally conservative mindset, people might be ready to vote for candidates who stand for less-intrusive government and no public money to bailout bad financial decisions.

tw · 11-19-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

What she was purported to have said was that Russia was visible from her home. That was NOT true. That was a skit from SNL.

She said Russia could be seen from Alaska. And Alaska is her home. So she could see Russia from her home. Obviously, this is arguing semantics. But the point of what she claimed: she understood national security because Russia could be seen from Alaska.

Well that might play among those who know only using sound bytes. But exposed was a bigger Palin problem. She did not have George Jr's superior campaign skills. She was chosen to be the right wing extremist representative - as George Jr was. But, well, the movie W. does demonstrate that even George Jr did not have those skills when at about the same point in his life. The movie W also demonstrated how Goerge Jr refined those political skills.

Maybe Palin can be trained to be a good frontman as George Jr was. But she obviously was not ready which made her a classic target of ridicule. Worse for her, somebody keeps pushing her out there as if she is a viable and electable politician. That is only creating an image just like Dan Quayle - another whose image gelled in the American psyche.

Flint · 11-19-2008, 07:56 PM

Is the point of this thread that the poll asked stupid, pointless questions?

What "side" you're on shouldn't negate your ability to spot a stupid question.

Griff · 11-19-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

If the Obamanator can't deliver on his big promises, if the democratic congress descends into petty squabbles and turf warfare, and especially if the ongoing economic depression moves people to a more self-sufficient, fiscally conservative mindset, people might be ready to vote for candidates who stand for less-intrusive government and no public money to bailout bad financial decisions.

I think they'll need new faces to do that with credibility no matter the level of nuttiness in the new Congress. Success might have to involve the national party with-holding support for the bad actors that just lost.

classicman · 11-19-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Is the point of this thread that the poll asked stupid, pointless questions?

What "side" you're on shouldn't negate your ability to spot a stupid question.

Yes that and many who voted had no idea really what they were voting for or against...on both sides.

Pico and ME · 11-19-2008, 08:59 PM

Ah hell...the whole elction was nothing but stupid sound bites anyway. NO ONE had any real info.

Flint · 11-19-2008, 09:12 PM

If only they had known the truth! The information from this really awesome poll could have shown them the light...

FACT: 99% of all Americans do NOT know that wearing tin foil hats can keep the liberal DEMON WORSHIPPERS from taxing your Bible collection.

Right, this is what we need more of. This will help the political process.

Pico and ME · 11-19-2008, 10:08 PM

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Pie · 11-20-2008, 01:02 AM

Just when I thought it might be safe to take classic off ignore...
Sigh.

Aliantha · 11-20-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Yes that and many who voted had no idea really what they were voting for or against...on both sides.

That's the case in most elections though.

I don't really think this one was any different to the last time GW got elected. Do you?

classicman · 11-20-2008, 07:48 AM

Ali - no I don't. Its just unfortunate to find something that you found interesting and share it only to be ridiculed. Whatever.

Pie - To what do I owe that honor...again?

Pico and ME · 11-20-2008, 08:02 AM

Classic, you aren't being riciculed...the poll is being ridiculed. Its actually a good example of something that should be in the ridiculously partisan thread.

classicman · 11-20-2008, 08:17 AM

Pico - you are probably right in that it belonged in another thread instead of its own.

Flint · 11-20-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Pico - you are probably right in that it belonged in another thread instead of its own.

I'd like to suggest a new thread, classicman's partisan claptrap, for things of this nature.

Shawnee123 · 11-20-2008, 09:34 AM

Heh

11-19-2008, 07:56 PM	#18
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11-19-2008, 09:12 PM	#22
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	If only they had known the truth! The information from this really awesome poll could have shown them the light... FACT: 99% of all Americans do NOT know that wearing tin foil hats can keep the liberal DEMON WORSHIPPERS from taxing your Bible collection. Right, this is what we need more of. This will help the political process. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-19-2008, 10:08 PM	#23
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	. Attached Images

11-20-2008, 01:02 AM	#24
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Just when I thought it might be safe to take classic off ignore... Sigh. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

11-20-2008, 07:48 AM	#26
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Ali - no I don't. Its just unfortunate to find something that you found interesting and share it only to be ridiculed. Whatever. Pie - To what do I owe that honor...again? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-19-2008, 08:59 PM	#21
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Ah hell...the whole elction was nothing but stupid sound bites anyway. NO ONE had any real info.

11-20-2008, 08:02 AM	#27
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Classic, you aren't being riciculed...the poll is being ridiculed. Its actually a good example of something that should be in the ridiculously partisan thread.

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11-20-2008, 09:34 AM	#30
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