Do you believe in karma? - Page 4

Elspode · 11-11-2008, 07:41 PM

Karma works whether you believe in it or not. Sometimes, you have to be patient.

Apollo · 11-12-2008, 02:04 AM

I believe in Karma, but not in any metaphysical sense. I just believe that if you're a good person, it increases the chance that good things will happen to you. There's no certainty that good things WILL happen. Your just making it easier for good things to happen.

Of course, the definition of being a good person is subjective, so that's where my little Karma theory falls through.

But anyway...THIS IS MY FIRST POST. Cheers.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-12-2008, 07:29 AM

Welcome to the Cellar, Apollo.
Good Karma comes with patience.

Pie · 11-12-2008, 07:37 AM

Hi, Apollo. Well, you started with a thoughtful, readable post -- your Cellar Karma is in the positive.

Griff · 11-12-2008, 03:40 PM

I witnessed karma this week. On Tuesday, I went to a funeral for a 75year old woman. She had spent the last 20? years of her life caring for the old and infirm, people who were taking the long hard road out of the world. She contracted pneumonia / something else and died easy in less than a week. She was blessed.

DanaC · 11-12-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

My leanings are toward Mahyana but I am not a purist and I believe in any of the teachings [of any religion] that have a positive message for mankind without being sexist.

How does that work? Does the message being positive mean it's more likely to be true? Do you believe them all because you believe the positive is most likely to be true or do you believe in them all because you want the positive message to be true?

Nirvana · 11-12-2008, 11:13 PM

I don't believe in a God that will smite you if you steal an apple. I do not believe there is a purgatory, or a lake of fire. I don't believe that people should have their hands cut off in the name of religion. These are the negative messages that are promoted by certain religions to keep their followers in line. I do not believe in scaring people to choose the right path when its much simpler to show them a easier way to end their suffering.

Pie · 11-13-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

...show them a easier way to end their suffering.

DanaC · 11-13-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

I don't believe in a God that will smite you if you steal an apple. I do not believe there is a purgatory, or a lake of fire. I don't believe that people should have their hands cut off in the name of religion. These are the negative messages that are promoted by certain religions to keep their followers in line. I do not believe in scaring people to choose the right path when its much simpler to show them a easier way to end their suffering.

*Nods* ok. I can see how you can disbelieve that. What I don't understand (please don't take offence atthis, I am genuinely bemused) is how that can translate to believing all the religions that give positive messages. What if a religion gives a positive message about love and peace, but the main gist of that religion is that aliens started life on earth?

Pie · 11-13-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

What if a religion gives a positive message about love and peace, but the main gist of that religion is that aliens started life on earth?

It makes as much sense as all the rest of 'em.

Nirvana · 11-13-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

*Nods* ok. I can see how you can disbelieve that. What I don't understand (please don't take offence atthis, I am genuinely bemused) is how that can translate to believing all the religions that give positive messages. What if a religion gives a positive message about love and peace, but the main gist of that religion is that aliens started life on earth?

The freedom to choose which parts one believes as long as they are the middle way do not really have to be defined as one single religion. I believe if you have compassion for other human beings that your life will be happier. I believe if you help other people your life will be happier. Buddhism is not so much a religion as it is a way of life that follows no extremes.

The basic truth about what I believe is that we are all born and we will all die, so in between we all want to suffer less. Living your life in the shoes of others is very enlightening.

DanaC · 11-13-2008, 06:04 PM

*Smiles* ok. I think I misunderstood your original point :p

11-11-2008, 07:41 PM	#46
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Karma works whether you believe in it or not. Sometimes, you have to be patient. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

11-12-2008, 07:29 AM	#48
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Welcome to the Cellar, Apollo. Good Karma comes with patience. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-12-2008, 07:37 AM	#49
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Hi, Apollo. Well, you started with a thoughtful, readable post -- your Cellar Karma is in the positive. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

11-12-2008, 03:40 PM	#50
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I witnessed karma this week. On Tuesday, I went to a funeral for a 75year old woman. She had spent the last 20? years of her life caring for the old and infirm, people who were taking the long hard road out of the world. She contracted pneumonia / something else and died easy in less than a week. She was blessed. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-12-2008, 11:13 PM	#52
Nirvana Back in 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,684	I don't believe in a God that will smite you if you steal an apple. I do not believe there is a purgatory, or a lake of fire. I don't believe that people should have their hands cut off in the name of religion. These are the negative messages that are promoted by certain religions to keep their followers in line. I do not believe in scaring people to choose the right path when its much simpler to show them a easier way to end their suffering. __________________ Speaking simply... do not confuse this with having a simple mind.

11-12-2008, 02:04 AM	#47
Apollo i need friends Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Transplanted from PDX to Wilmington, DE Posts: 65	I believe in Karma, but not in any metaphysical sense. I just believe that if you're a good person, it increases the chance that good things will happen to you. There's no certainty that good things WILL happen. Your just making it easier for good things to happen. Of course, the definition of being a good person is subjective, so that's where my little Karma theory falls through. But anyway...THIS IS MY FIRST POST. Cheers.

11-13-2008, 06:04 PM	#57
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Smiles ok. I think I misunderstood your original point :p

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