The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Politics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Politics Where we learn not to think less of others who don't share our views

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-16-2008, 12:49 PM   #61
glatt
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 27,717
Oh, c'mon. Doesn't that deserve a guffaw? Only a "sheesh?"
glatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 12:50 PM   #62
Cicero
Looking forward to open mic night.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 5,148
Why pay by the viable registration? Because it's standard practice and procedure. It makes them work harder to target real (seeming) voters as well. It's true, the more numbers you have the more viable voters you have collected. You do go for numbers because the chances of hitting a real registrant is greater. But yes, they are paid per verifiable registration. ACORN had done one better and to their credit: Pay by the hour!! Less bullshit that way. ACORN is also probably also paid a commission for viable registrations. Typical in the bizz.

The point of all of it is, is to find out who the voters are, and their demographics, and bother them to vote until voting is over. The mission of every campaign is to get the real numbers and where the real voters are so you can develop basic statistics of probability. Then work with those numbers to develop your campaign.

All registrations are verified. Every single one. Obscuring the numbers or flooding the numbers would mean that you don't even know your own outcome, but you have upset a process. What good does it do to obfuscate the facts that you, yourself, NEED dearly?

Ok someone else answer these questions. I'm too bent to keep this up. Let's think things through. All the way through.
__________________
Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

Last edited by Cicero; 10-16-2008 at 12:55 PM.
Cicero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 12:58 PM   #63
Shawnee123
Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 21,206
Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
Oh, c'mon. Doesn't that deserve a guffaw? Only a "sheesh?"
I wasn't sheeshing at you, glatt. I was sheeshing at the amazing events I keep witnessing over and over: the "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that?" then when presented with actual articles other than WHAT THEY read ON THE CELLAR the quintessential moderate ignores it...then starts "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that" shit all over again.

It's gotten to the point it makes me sick to my stomach to read anymore.

Don't ask for information you either won't process, can't process, or will ultimately ignore.

I thought I was the Queen of Denial. I got nuttin' on The Moderate.

Quote:
Ok someone else answer these questions. I'm too bent to keep this up. Let's think things through. All the way through
I fucking tried.
__________________
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice.
--Bill Cosby
Shawnee123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:04 PM   #64
Cicero
Looking forward to open mic night.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 5,148
Uh oh. Shawnee and Cic are going, ALL CAPS. Watch out!! lol!

Yes Shawnee, you tried, you did, and you did well.

"But but how you know daaaah'?" lol!
__________________
Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung
Cicero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:05 PM   #65
glatt
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 27,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
I wasn't sheeshing at you, glatt. I was sheeshing at the amazing events I keep witnessing over and over: the "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that?" then when presented with actual articles other than WHAT THEY read ON THE CELLAR the quintessential moderate ignores it...then starts "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that" shit all over again.

It's gotten to the point it makes me sick to my stomach to read anymore.

Don't ask for information you either won't process, can't process, or will ultimately ignore.

I thought I was the Queen of Denial. I got nuttin' on The Moderate.



I fucking tried.
Never mind. I didn't even notice your earlier post. It was a good one. Can't get much clearer than that.
glatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:22 PM   #66
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Well, it looks like someone is concerned so there may actually be something to all this afterall.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:30 PM   #67
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cicero View Post
All registrations are verified. Every single one. Obscuring the numbers or flooding the numbers would mean that you don't even know your own outcome, but you have upset a process. What good does it do to obfuscate the facts that you, yourself, NEED dearly?
The way I understand it is they are flooding the system needlessly and knowingly. Motivation? Only they can answer that. As I said before, I believe they are motivated by the income. Why elese would you knowingly register the same dude 72 times? Why in the world would you register the homeless guy living under a bridge with a mental illness? (figuratively). Most of these people don't know who is running for office, other than one is a young black guy and the other an old white guy. I guess if we start to see ACORN driving the homeless dude from under the bridge to actually vote we may have an answer. I don't know. But something is obviously afoot.
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:35 PM   #68
Pico and ME
Are you knock-kneed?
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Middle Hoosierland
Posts: 3,549
Quote:
Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because Justice Department regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations particularly so close to an election.

Ya right...but anonymously leaking that there is an 'investigation' isn't....especially if it helps with the GOP campaign. Timing is everything. This will all be forgotten once Nov. 4 comes around.
Pico and ME is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:41 PM   #69
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico and ME View Post
This will all be forgotten once Nov. 4 comes around.
I don't think FBI investigations work that way. Maybe back in the time of Hoover, but not so much lately.
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:45 PM   #70
Cicero
Looking forward to open mic night.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 5,148
I am on stfu mode. If you can not find a motivation for such a ridiculous allegation *#$^%^&%^%T%&&r77rE!!! BAAAH!!

This is the sound of utter frustration (the sound I am making). AAAYaah aaa! oh! d'oh. jes..f..chris..dju! gah! ah! fu..dam..dam..kuuuhh!

sigh. alright I feel better. a little..
__________________
Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung
Cicero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 01:51 PM   #71
classicman
barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 23,401
Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
So are you saying that 85% of ACORN's problems are directly traceable to top management?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! !!! !!!!
__________________
"like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt
classicman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 02:08 PM   #72
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cicero View Post
I am on stfu mode. If you can not find a motivation for such a ridiculous allegation *#$^%^&%^%T%&&r77rE!!! BAAAH!!

This is the sound of utter frustration (the sound I am making). AAAYaah aaa! oh! d'oh. jes..f..chris..dju! gah! ah! fu..dam..dam..kuuuhh!

sigh. alright I feel better. a little..
Are you ok?

What was that in reference to anyway? or were you just throwing a dish or dropping a bowling ball out of the aparment tower onto the sidewalk?
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 02:14 PM   #73
Cicero
Looking forward to open mic night.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 5,148
gaaah!!
__________________
Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung
Cicero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 02:17 PM   #74
Shawnee123
Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 21,206
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMercenary View Post
The way I understand it is they are flooding the system needlessly and knowingly. Motivation? Only they can answer that. As I said before, I believe they are motivated by the income. Why elese would you knowingly register the same dude 72 times? Why in the world would you register the homeless guy living under a bridge with a mental illness? (figuratively). Most of these people don't know who is running for office, other than one is a young black guy and the other an old white guy. I guess if we start to see ACORN driving the homeless dude from under the bridge to actually vote we may have an answer. I don't know. But something is obviously afoot.
For the 57th time, how can they be motivated by money when they dont' get more money for registering more applicants.

I give up.
Jesus H Christ.

I'm gonna go whine somewhere about how no one is telling me for whom to vote.
__________________
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice.
--Bill Cosby
Shawnee123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2008, 02:28 PM   #75
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
For the 57th time, how can they be motivated by money when they dont' get more money for registering more applicants.

I give up.
Jesus H Christ.

I'm gonna go whine somewhere about how no one is telling me for whom to vote.
Did you not even read my response???

"I don't know. But something is obviously afoot."
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:53 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.