The Wise Alchy Sage Retires - Page 2

mac_tire_daingean · 01-03-2008, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

I don't drink moderately while engaged socially. So in the name of good emotional, physical, and spiritual health and fitness I'm pulling the plug on booze. We had a nice run but it doesn't work any more.

Best of luck to you Griff. You will be happy you did it. There is something that happens once you finally admit that drink isn't really your friend anymore that allows you to find the strength to move forward emotionally, physically, and spiritually. I was a fully functioning drunk as well, which for me meant having 5-8 strong mixed drinks every night, then getting up and functioning the next day with the rest of society. If we were in a party setting...well....5-8 drinks was warm up for a steady stream of shots. After deciding I was destroying myself, and everything around me, stopping the drink was one of the things that I made the choice to do. Like LookOut, there were a lot of other things to deal with then because I realized it was much more difficult sober than not. All in all though, once the fog from the drink lifted after a couple of weeks, life has been so much fuller and richer. Some people can handle social drinking, I can't handle drinking at all. Congrats on self awareness and positive change for you.

seakdivers · 01-05-2008, 01:14 AM

Good choice Griff.

I quit in '07 - September 3rd to be exact. Went to detox, went to rehab - the whole nine yards.... best thing I have ever done for myself & my family.

Be prepared to be a bit "raw" for a while. I thought I was a total blabbermouth when I was a drunk.... at least I was somewhat careful with what I said. Not now.....

You can do it!

kerosene · 01-07-2008, 08:43 AM

Seak I know what you mean by "raw." I couldn't figure out why I suddenly had all these "problems." Then I realized that was why I drank so much...so I didn't see them.

Sundae · 01-09-2008, 06:38 AM

I haven't had a drink since New Year's Eve.
I decided to try abstinance after cutting down wasn't really working for me.

I know you (Griff) don't have as troubled a relationship with alcohol as I do, but I still believe taking the step of cutting it out completely is a brave one in a culture where drinking is not just acceptable but almost expected. My respect to the others who have posted after making the same decision, especially those who identified their own problems.

I'm in Welling today (terrible town, great library) for my second session of group therapy for dealing with Alcohol Related Issues.

The first wasn't too grim, but knowing I am going to spend 1.5 hours, three days a week for the next six weeks is quite daunting. Somehow I think my decision to view quitting drinking as a matter of self respect will be more useful to me than the therapy, but I am trying to be open minded. There is a woman on the course who quit on 25 November after going through detox, so at least I have a role model.

Here's to being able to post that we are still drink free by choice this time next month (even though I am still counting mine on a daily basis!)

BigV · 01-09-2008, 09:52 AM

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Here's to being able to post that we are still drink free by choice this time next month (even though I am still counting mine on a daily basis!)

Bravo!!

SG, I had a clever post composed, which out of the generosity of my heart, I have deleted without a trace. You're welcome.

Instead I want to offer my congratulations on your courageous decision, and I will also say that I also decided (a while ago) that cutting down was impossibly more difficult than abstinence. I can easily measure "no drinks" but I think the decision "have I had enough to drink or can I have one more..." is fraught with peril. The very thing upon which I rely to make a such a decision soundly is the very thing that is being dulled by the drink--my judgment.

Griff · 01-09-2008, 03:53 PM

Thanks SG. Thus far its only been a matter of thinking, "I usually have a drink now." I recognize it, but I'm not really suffering from the lack. One reason I stopped was that a while back I physically felt an itch in my brain when I wanted a drink. It only happened once, but it felt like something which could get much more intense. I don't want to permanently wire my brain for booze.

Like V, I think abstinence will work better for me for the same reason. Be strong SG, your bravery puts me to shame.

Sundae · 01-23-2008, 05:52 AM

Well it's been over three weeks now, which sometimes sounds laughable, and sometimes sounds like something I should get a standing ovation for.

I've been to two AA meetings - I'm courting them for when my current group therapy finishes in 2.5 weeks time. The temptation is still very much there and I don't want to be cut loose with no help as I fear I will listen to the drink voice in my head once the structure of three weekly meetings finishes.

On the one hand I do not want to be 22 years sober and still be attending AA like on of the women in the meeting last night. On the other hand if I can walk down the street mourning the fact that I will never surrender my conscious mind to alcohol again I obviously still have work to do. As I was walking home last night I was seriously considering going to buy some Night Nurse as someone at the meeting mentioned coming off alcohol and getting hallucinations from necking a bottle when she was ill. I thought it would be an interesting experience and after all HM would never know I knew it contained alcohol...

Ahem. Have to remember that managing to hide it is only succeeding in lying to myself. I have more self respect than that and I have pride and dignity. Or at least I'm committed to the idea of fake it til you make it.

Hope everyone else is doing as well as they intended.

classicman · 01-23-2008, 07:34 AM

Congrats SG, it seems as though you are headed in the right direction and have a good mindset. I still get occassional cravings, but I am in control now. The thought of "being controlled" by an addiction pretty much wipes out the desire for it. Good luck all!

kerosene · 01-23-2008, 05:34 PM

Awesome! Great job, Sundae! You know, it is okay to be mourning the loss of your alchy buddy. After all, she has been an escape all this time, right? You just don't need her anymore.

I am happy for you, SG.

Griff · 01-23-2008, 05:41 PM

Keep going Sundae, don't cheat on yourself.

I'm sober and wondering how well I'll handle the intensity of reality in the long run. {shrug} I'm just playing station to station baseball but I guess that's how the winners play. The previous metaphor probably works for <2% of the American population, making it completely meaningless to almost everyone. I guess that's the definition of a good metaphor.

BigV · 01-23-2008, 06:04 PM

Griff, my brother. What *is* a metaphor?

For playing baseball in, of course!

ZenGum · 01-24-2008, 09:41 AM

I just wanna say

,

and

to all those who are making a stand against any kind of substance habit: drink, cigarette, whatever. Either starting a new stand or keeping up one you've got going. There are enough people here that I won't list you by name but I admire your honesty in admitting to yourself that there is a problem, and your courage in doing what needs to be done about it.
Hang in there, all of you.

lookout123 · 01-24-2008, 09:43 AM

so does this mean the cellar is going straightedge? i'll get the sharpie and we can all X up.

BigV · 01-24-2008, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123

so does this mean the cellar is going straightedge? i'll get the sharpie and we can all X up.

I really don't think so.

To me, straightedge is all about strict habits AND strict enforcement of those values and standards among all others.

I don't see the strict habits, certainly not uniformly strict. And more importantly, and more happily, I don't see the intolerance that defines straightedgers. I see tolerance.

LabRat · 01-24-2008, 11:45 AM

Good! More DD's for meeeeee... *glug* *glug*

Seriously, way to go guys and gals. I am proud of you.

01-09-2008, 06:38 AM	#19
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I haven't had a drink since New Year's Eve. I decided to try abstinance after cutting down wasn't really working for me. I know you (Griff) don't have as troubled a relationship with alcohol as I do, but I still believe taking the step of cutting it out completely is a brave one in a culture where drinking is not just acceptable but almost expected. My respect to the others who have posted after making the same decision, especially those who identified their own problems. I'm in Welling today (terrible town, great library) for my second session of group therapy for dealing with Alcohol Related Issues. The first wasn't too grim, but knowing I am going to spend 1.5 hours, three days a week for the next six weeks is quite daunting. Somehow I think my decision to view quitting drinking as a matter of self respect will be more useful to me than the therapy, but I am trying to be open minded. There is a woman on the course who quit on 25 November after going through detox, so at least I have a role model. Here's to being able to post that we are still drink free by choice this time next month (even though I am still counting mine on a daily basis!) __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

01-09-2008, 03:53 PM	#21
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Thanks SG. Thus far its only been a matter of thinking, "I usually have a drink now." I recognize it, but I'm not really suffering from the lack. One reason I stopped was that a while back I physically felt an itch in my brain when I wanted a drink. It only happened once, but it felt like something which could get much more intense. I don't want to permanently wire my brain for booze. Like V, I think abstinence will work better for me for the same reason. Be strong SG, your bravery puts me to shame. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-23-2008, 05:52 AM	#22
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Well it's been over three weeks now, which sometimes sounds laughable, and sometimes sounds like something I should get a standing ovation for. I've been to two AA meetings - I'm courting them for when my current group therapy finishes in 2.5 weeks time. The temptation is still *very* much there and I don't want to be cut loose with no help as I fear I will listen to the drink voice in my head once the structure of three weekly meetings finishes. On the one hand I do not want to be 22 years sober and still be attending AA like on of the women in the meeting last night. On the other hand if I can walk down the street mourning the fact that I will never surrender my conscious mind to alcohol again I obviously still have work to do. As I was walking home last night I was seriously considering going to buy some Night Nurse as someone at the meeting mentioned coming off alcohol and getting hallucinations from necking a bottle when she was ill. I thought it would be an interesting experience and after all HM would never know I knew it contained alcohol... Ahem. Have to remember that managing to hide it is only succeeding in lying to myself. I have more self respect than that and I have pride and dignity. Or at least I'm committed to the idea of fake it til you make it. Hope everyone else is doing as well as they intended. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

01-23-2008, 07:34 AM	#23
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Congrats SG, it seems as though you are headed in the right direction and have a good mindset. I still get occassional cravings, but I am in control now. The thought of "being controlled" by an addiction pretty much wipes out the desire for it. Good luck all! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-23-2008, 05:41 PM	#25
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Keep going Sundae, don't cheat on yourself. I'm sober and wondering how well I'll handle the intensity of reality in the long run. {shrug} I'm just playing station to station baseball but I guess that's how the winners play. The previous metaphor probably works for <2% of the American population, making it completely meaningless to almost everyone. I guess that's the definition of a good metaphor. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-05-2008, 01:14 AM	#17
seakdivers Icy Queen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southeast Alaska Posts: 700	Good choice Griff. I quit in '07 - September 3rd to be exact. Went to detox, went to rehab - the whole nine yards.... best thing I have ever done for myself & my family. Be prepared to be a bit "raw" for a while. I thought I was a total blabbermouth when I was a drunk.... at least I was somewhat careful with what I said. Not now..... You can do it!

01-07-2008, 08:43 AM	#18
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Seak I know what you mean by "raw." I couldn't figure out why I suddenly had all these "problems." Then I realized that was why I drank so much...so I didn't see them.

01-23-2008, 05:34 PM	#24
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Awesome! Great job, Sundae! You know, it is okay to be mourning the loss of your alchy buddy. After all, she has been an escape all this time, right? You just don't need her anymore. I am happy for you, SG.

01-23-2008, 06:04 PM	#26
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Griff, my brother. What is a metaphor? For playing baseball in, of course! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

01-24-2008, 09:41 AM	#27
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	I just wanna say , and to all those who are making a stand against any kind of substance habit: drink, cigarette, whatever. Either starting a new stand or keeping up one you've got going. There are enough people here that I won't list you by name but I admire your honesty in admitting to yourself that there is a problem, and your courage in doing what needs to be done about it. Hang in there, all of you. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl. Last edited by ZenGum; 01-24-2008 at 10:14 AM.

01-24-2008, 09:43 AM	#28
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	so does this mean the cellar is going straightedge? i'll get the sharpie and we can all X up. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-24-2008, 11:45 AM	#30
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	Good! More DD's for meeeeee... glug glug Seriously, way to go guys and gals. I am proud of you. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

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