Police allegedly hang quadriplegic man

[toranokaze]

Originally Posted by Madman

Well, you know, he may have concealed a weapon.

He could of had a mouth gun

[xoxoxoBruce]

Just because he was in a chair doesn't mean he's helpless, or indeed, not dangerous.

[Bullitt]

[ZenGum]

Yeah, but Bruce, he was quadraplegic. Suppose he's packing ... what's he gonna do with it?
BUT! He's probably got an assistant with him. Maybe the assistant is using the quad-guy to carry his piece, tucked quietly down the back of the chair or somewhere.
If quadraplegics become immune to searches, they could become the new accessory of choice for every crack-dealing gang-banger out there. I'm mostly kidding here, but not completely. Just because you're in a wheelchair, does not mean you are automatically an angel. I have personally known one, and heard of a second, pot-dealer who operated from a wheelchair. Okay, they were paraplegic, not quadraplegic, but it illustrates the point.
Just wondering, how should the cops search quadraplegics? Draping them over a wall is out ... how should it be done?

No one said not to search him, they can't grab anyone else by the head and hang them upside down without a excessive force charge then a battery charge in civil court.
They must take his condition into consideration and take steps to deal with it appropriately. He is immobile in a chair, all they had to do was search around after having the proper medically trained professionals come to the site to help them... that is all.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Just because he was in a chair doesn't mean he's helpless, or indeed, not dangerous.

Para.

Ooooohhhhh Zen..pot ...really... how scarrrrryyyyyy!!!!

[ZenGum]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Para.

Ooooohhhhh Zen..pot ...really... how scarrrrryyyyyy!!!!

Absolutely
The guy was obviously a time bomb, just one bad reefer away from becoming a homicidal axe-wielding maniac...


C'mon ... how do you think I knew he was dealing???

His horns and RPG collection?

[ZenGum]

That, and the forked tail and the fiery pentacles glowing in his eyes.
RPG ... was that Role Playing Game or Rocket Propelled Grenade?

Either in the eyes of cops most likely.

http://www.wral.com/news/strange/story/1945129/

LOS ANGELES — A jury cleared four Pasadena police officers accused of pulling a quadriplegic man out of his wheelchair and slinging him over a concrete wall to search him, ...

He was hospitalized for six days due to shoulder and neck injuries he sustained when the officers hung him over the wall, Longo said.

[Aliantha]

I don't think any reasonable person feels or thinks that people in wheelchairs are somehow less equal in any way than an able bodied person.

There are idiots everywhere...even in the policeforce. Yep I think they've gotten away with well...a lot more than they should have in this case.

I don't agree that you can/should stereotype police any more than you can/should stereotype anyone else. For every copper that goes into the force because he's on a powertrip, there's 10 more that do it for the right reasons. It's just that you don't hear so much about the good ones, so people make these sweeping judgements which in all reality, are just not fair.

[quote=Aliantha;397637]

I don't think any reasonable person feels or thinks that people in wheelchairs are somehow less equal in any way than an able bodied person.

You would think that, and they don't think it consciously, but I am often treated like a moron, given lollipops out of kid jars by tellers, service personnel will walk quickly past three people to ask me if I need help finding anything (not reaching anything, finding anything), grown men and women will bend down, hands on their knees and ask "weellll what's YOUR name"!; they "help" me with things I am doing just fine without asking, often taking things out of my hands to do so, the list is extensive and it happens pretty-much daily. Funny thing is I try to tune it out, it infuriates my wife.
Yes, people think we are "less".

There are idiots everywhere...even in the policeforce. Yep I think they've gotten away with well...a lot more than they should have in this case.

I don't agree that you can/should stereotype police any more than you can/should stereotype anyone else. For every copper that goes into the force because he's on a powertrip, there's 10 more that do it for the right reasons. It's just that you don't hear so much about the good ones, so people make these sweeping judgements which in all reality, are just not fair.

I believe that more and more the police force has an entrenched attitude of "brother/sisterhood" where the protect and serve on their cars and badges means the system and not those who they are supposed to work for.
I chat and discuss topics with cops on several boards and many have admitted as much on numerous occasions.
They talk about how "rough it is"... then become something else...
I agree, many cops are great cops and I admire them more than I can express. I am not a cop basher, but feel it is monumentally important to weed-out those who abuse their position.
Make examples of them and be sure to let others know what kind of behavior will NOT be tolerated.
This does not happen, the opposite does.
"Go ahead, go wild, we got your back".
However, I too find statements like "all cops are... " on either side to be disturbing and childish.
But, a good cop is just doing his job.

[Aliantha]

Well, I think that in the environment your cops have to police in over there, which would have to be at least 10 times worse than here, it's no wonder they're closing ranks to protect each other.

Their behaviour is nothing more than a symptom of a society gone mad for litigation.

Then they need to get a new job.

[Aliantha]

ahuh...and who will protect and serve then?