Politics ad absurdam

[xoxoxoBruce]

You're right, I apologize. Change camel to rocket launcher.

[DanaC]

LoL

*now has image of whooping UG, astride a rocket, Dr Strangelove style*

[xoxoxoBruce]

No Dana, he'd rather send others off to die.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

I've worn my country's uniform, Bruce. There was at least one day then where it looked like I'd get in a war -- with Iran. My moral position is quite secure, and I'd like you not to forget that again.

Please accept this finger -- with an orbital Whoop-peee motion.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I know you have, and although you didn't see combat I'm sure you would have done your duty. But, we're not talking about the past, are we.

We are talking about now, and the future, where you can promote fucking with the whole world because you don't approve of their socio-econimic systems.... while you are out safely fishing on your boat.
Therefore, I stand by my statement.

I'll see your finger and raise you one.

[Aliantha]

I can't believe the government would feel so threatened by a one man protest that they're willing to invest a years wages for probably 3 or 4 British families in order to try and shut him up - unsuccessfully apparently.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

There's libertarian democracy, and then there's everything else, Bruce. The reason I disapprove of the everything else is because I'm paying attention. The way you'd like me to follow is unacceptable, for its fascist sympathies. This, it appears, is your comfort zone.


GET OUT OF THERE.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Let's see, just on the basis of this exerpt, we see a man fighting against the fight against Islamofascism.

Ah, if only the UK had National Review Cruises, the solution would be as simple as all the others they offer.

I am getting used to these moments – when gentle holiday geniality bleeds into... what? I lie on the beach with Hillary-Ann, a chatty, scatty 35-year-old Californian designer. As she explains the perils of Republican dating, my mind drifts, watching the gentle tide. When I hear her say, " Of course, we need to execute some of these people," I wake up. Who do we need to execute? She runs her fingers through the sand lazily. "A few of these prominent liberals who are trying to demoralise the country," she says. "Just take a couple of these anti-war people off to the gas chamber for treason to show, if you try to bring down America at a time of war, that's what you'll get." She squints at the sun and smiles. " Then things'll change."

After all, if they don't listen, there's going to be hell in a short number of years.

"Is he your only child?" I ask. "Yes," she says. "Do you have a child back in England?" she asks. No, I say. Her face darkens. "You'd better start," she says. "The Muslims are breeding. Soon, they'll have the whole of Europe."

...

Steyn's thesis in his new book, America Alone, is simple: The "European races" i.e., white people – "are too self-absorbed to breed," but the Muslims are multiplying quickly. The inevitable result will be " large-scale evacuation operations circa 2015" as Europe is ceded to al Qaeda and "Greater France remorselessly evolve[s] into Greater Bosnia."

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

There's libertarian democracy, and then there's everything else, Bruce.

Where is this libertarian democracy, you speak of? You seem to be so enamored with it, you fail to grasp the the people in "everything else" don't care what you want for them. They are even so brazen as to want to live under a system of their own choosing.

I know, I know, they're ingrates and ignoring your wishes is stupid on their part, but people being thinking creatures tend to be like that. Even your propensity for wanting to force them to do your bidding doesn't seem to deter them. They must be evil.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Whoring after a false god -- totalitarianism -- is evil by any definition, Bruce. Your attempt at pseudosophistication is a profound failure. Democracy works better for any human being than any other system; those pushing some other path are pushing oppression, intending to license themselves and those like themselves as oppressors. Such enemies of humankind should be hunted down and converted permanently or shot.

When the last dictator is strangled on the guts of the last chief of secret police, how much oppression and misery will have fled the world? You've never attempted an answer to that question, rhetorical or no.

I am using libertarian, with a small L, in a way you seem not to have educated yourself about -- as a general sociopolitical tendency, such as is largely done here in these United States, and was more done in past days. This libertarianism is what is expressed in the remark, "It's a free country."

My point here is you don't have to be an American citizen, nor even of the native English-speaking world, to enjoy the benefits of democracy. The only thing unique to us Americans is that we're doing it first. If we can have it, surely any human can have it. This seems an idea you're reluctant to accept; I cannot see why.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Kitsune, while The National Review can often put desiderata simply, they are never unaware of complexities that may transpire. I find them admirable for clarity.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I cannot see why.

That is the understatement of the century.

[DanaC]

I am using libertarian, with a small L, in a way you seem not to have educated yourself about -- as a general sociopolitical tendency, such as is largely done here in these United States, and was more done in past days. This libertarianism is what is expressed in the remark, "It's a free country."

In much the same way, then, that I and many other british/europeans use the term 'socialism' with a small s, to describe a general socio-political tendency.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

As a libertarian, I am as you can readily see an antisocialist.

That is the understatement of the century.

Which is NOT a help to getting me to see why you think any way, let alone your way -- was there ever anything there at all to see? C'mon, Bruce, you're supposed to be a smart guy, right? Make it clear. Elucidate: I'd like to see why you're so unhappy at the prospect of a great American/human success, in despite of anything the anti-American opposition could come up with (seems all they can do is kill people and burn up stuff), that you oppose it so determinedly.

[xoxoxoBruce]

What makes you think I'm trying to win you over, to change your mind?
I learned long ago it not only wastes my time, it annoys the pig^^^ duck.