6/16/2002: Colombian protestors

Undertoad · 06-16-2002, 11:32 AM

It's another MSNBC image. These folks have buried themselves in the dirt to protest poverty and marginalization. They are outside a church, and they have announced that they will stay buried here until the mayor arrives to talk to them about their concerns.

I love these guys! They're like the Earth First! dude, except that 1) they're probably cleaner, and 2) they aren't preventing anyone from entering anywhere; they might not even be trespassing. All they want is to be heard.

And while I don't know whether the mayor paid them a visit (if I were the mayor I would definitely go talk to them), but they've now been seen by hundreds of thousands of people around the world.

And · 06-16-2002, 03:18 PM

A very queer garden, indeed. They must have some balls to do this. I mean, they can't even go to the bathroom around the corner or anything. I couldn't do that, but not because of the bathroom thing or claustrophobia or anything. The flat-out fear of someone kicking my head would be enough to stop me. Then again, I think that might be part of why they are protesting, to stop their figurative heads getting kicked, I guess.

MaggieL · 06-16-2002, 05:03 PM

Of course, burying yourself in the dirt to protest being marginalized is a bit like jumping in a pool to protest being wet.

goethean · 06-16-2002, 10:58 PM

Of course, burying yourself in the dirt to protest being marginalized is a bit like jumping in a pool to protest being wet.

A singularly poor simile. They were marginalized before they were buried. Non-violent, creative protest like this is one of the most potent sources of change. It is infinitely more sophisticated than violent protest. It pressures politicians where they feel it--in appearance.

More <a href="http://goethean.blogspot.com/2002_06_16_goethean_archive.html# 77830646">here</a>.

jaguar · 06-17-2002, 02:03 AM

Hearhear, good on them.

russotto · 06-17-2002, 12:22 PM

The way a real tyranny handles protests like this is singularly effective: another foot of dirt.

goethean · 06-17-2002, 12:29 PM

True. They do assume a modicum of freedom of expression. But skillful non-violent protest can work even against the most apathetically evil and powerful forces. cf. Gandhi vs. The British Empire.

So economic tyranny, i.e. overwhelmingly insurmountable poverty, is not tyranny?

Hubris Boy · 06-17-2002, 08:39 PM

The poor will always be with us.

We've had almost fifty years of money-vomiting, Great Society-style social programs here in the U.S., and while some of them have been marginally successful, most have been expensive failures.

It's amazing... you can't get rid of poverty by giving money to poor people.

jaguar · 06-17-2002, 11:50 PM

Very true, there *always* will be poverty. On the other hand if enough people get pissed off, which wouldn't suprise me in this case, things do happen, ghandi is the obvious example.

Just a matter of beating societies shit-tollerance level.

classicman · 12-25-2007, 11:41 AM

bump

JuancoRocks · 12-26-2007, 09:53 PM

" I'm against protesters, but I don't know how to show it"
(Mitch Hedberg)

TheMercenary · 12-28-2007, 11:18 AM

Every time I look at this picture all I can think of is "FORE!"

classicman · 12-28-2007, 11:22 AM

ok, I gotta ask. I thought the climate in Columbia was hot. If that is correct, why are they all wearing hats?

busterb · 12-28-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

why are they all wearing hats?

To keep the fucking sun off their heads! Hello!

xoxoxoBruce · 12-28-2007, 10:18 PM

It's chilly in the mountains.

06-16-2002, 11:32 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	6/16/2002: Colombian protestors It's another MSNBC image. These folks have buried themselves in the dirt to protest poverty and marginalization. They are outside a church, and they have announced that they will stay buried here until the mayor arrives to talk to them about their concerns. I love these guys! They're like the Earth First! dude, except that 1) they're probably cleaner, and 2) they aren't preventing anyone from entering anywhere; they might not even be trespassing. All they want is to be heard. And while I don't know whether the mayor paid them a visit (if I were the mayor I would definitely go talk to them), but they've now been seen by hundreds of thousands of people around the world.

06-16-2002, 03:18 PM	#2
And Conjunction Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Conjunction Junction Posts: 168	A very queer garden, indeed. They must have some balls to do this. I mean, they can't even go to the bathroom around the corner or anything. I couldn't do that, but not because of the bathroom thing or claustrophobia or anything. The flat-out fear of someone kicking my head would be enough to stop me. Then again, I think that might be part of why they are protesting, to stop their figurative heads getting kicked, I guess. __________________ -And, Word Wrangler and Keeper of the Cuttlefish.

06-16-2002, 05:03 PM	#3
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Of course, burying yourself in the dirt to protest being marginalized is a bit like jumping in a pool to protest being wet. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

06-16-2002, 10:58 PM	#4
goethean ethics evolve. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 60	Of course, burying yourself in the dirt to protest being marginalized is a bit like jumping in a pool to protest being wet. A singularly poor simile. They were marginalized before they were buried. Non-violent, creative protest like this is one of the most potent sources of change. It is infinitely more sophisticated than violent protest. It pressures politicians where they feel it--in appearance. More <a href="http://goethean.blogspot.com/2002_06_16_goethean_archive.html# 77830646">here</a>. Last edited by goethean; 06-17-2002 at 10:34 PM.

06-17-2002, 02:03 AM	#5
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Hearhear, good on them. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-17-2002, 12:22 PM	#6
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	The way a real tyranny handles protests like this is singularly effective: another foot of dirt.

06-17-2002, 12:29 PM	#7
goethean ethics evolve. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 60	true. True. They do assume a modicum of freedom of expression. But skillful non-violent protest can work even against the most apathetically evil and powerful forces. cf. Gandhi vs. The British Empire. So economic tyranny, i.e. overwhelmingly insurmountable poverty, is not tyranny?

06-17-2002, 08:39 PM	#8
Hubris Boy Keymaster of Gozer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Patapsco Drainage Basin Posts: 471	The poor will always be with us. We've had almost fifty years of money-vomiting, Great Society-style social programs here in the U.S., and while some of them have been marginally successful, most have been expensive failures. It's amazing... you can't get rid of poverty by giving money to poor people.

06-17-2002, 11:50 PM	#9
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Very true, there always will be poverty. On the other hand if enough people get pissed off, which wouldn't suprise me in this case, things do happen, ghandi is the obvious example. Just a matter of beating societies shit-tollerance level. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

12-25-2007, 11:41 AM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	bump __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-26-2007, 09:53 PM	#11
JuancoRocks Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Paradise Valley, Arizona Posts: 437	Colombian protestors " I'm against protesters, but I don't know how to show it" (Mitch Hedberg) __________________ "That's just like your opinion man"

12-28-2007, 11:18 AM	#12
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Every time I look at this picture all I can think of is "FORE!" __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

12-28-2007, 11:22 AM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	ok, I gotta ask. I thought the climate in Columbia was hot. If that is correct, why are they all wearing hats? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-28-2007, 10:18 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's chilly in the mountains. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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