New Used Djembe - Page 2

Elspode · 07-08-2004, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

What is it with you hippies and the fucking drums?

Because synthesizers are hard to plug in way out in a field somewhere around a bonfire.

wolf · 07-09-2004, 01:18 AM

If you ever make it to forks we can run a long extension cord from the house ... bring extra.

LabRat · 07-09-2004, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

djembe

how do you pronounce this? duh-jem-bee?

wolf · 07-09-2004, 10:52 AM

d' jem beh

(shorten the emphasis on the "D" sound, slide it into the jem a bit more)

Elspode · 07-09-2004, 01:47 PM

Virtually no "d" sound at all...most of the drummers I know say it like "gem bay".

wolf · 07-09-2004, 01:57 PM

the d makes it clear that it's really not quite the same sound as our g, though. there's a roughening of it and the dj kind of makes that clearer ... ah, we're never gonna agree on it exactly, and it's very hard to have such a discussion in text. AND i'm not going to record my version and post it, either.

LabRat · 07-09-2004, 02:29 PM

thanks!

richlevy · 07-09-2004, 08:15 PM

I noticed the tone was way too flat when I tried it, so I had my first attempt at tuning. I haven't replaced anything yet, so I unwrapped the ropes to the point where the rope was threaded through the diamonds and PULLED. It reminded me of those Victorian movies where the maid was tying a corset. I didn't have a broom handle and I was afraid to crack the wood, so I think I held back a bit.

The tone seems much better and the center has a deep bass. I don't know if I want to replace the head, but I do want to untie the ropes and clean the wood.

If I do decide to reskin it, should I get a 14" or 16" goat skin? The head measures a little over 10.5 inches. Should I get a medium or thick skin? I would assume a thick skin would give me a deeper note.

So far the three suppliers for goat skins I found are Mid-East Manufacturing, Columbia Music , and SunReed Instruments . The spirit in the woods shop Wolf recommended mentions new skins but doesn't list them on their page.

I'm going to Home Depot this weekend for rope and something to refinish and clean the wood. I'm looking forward to this project.

zippyt · 07-09-2004, 10:15 PM

Rich,
I don't know drums and I don't know wood for drums , but that rope ain't to be found at Home depot . Go to a climbing shop , any rope head can identefy it for you and you can get MANY different colors , i am thinking it looks like a 8mm rope . Good luck , and post pics as you fix it up .

Elspode · 07-10-2004, 03:24 PM

I would recommend stretching the existing one flat and measuring it, and then try to match it as closely as possible in size. I mean, it apparently worked once, right?

When tying the diamonds, it is good to have a pencil or stout stick to pull the rope first, through tightly, then *down* tightly. It is the downward pull that you make that actually puts the tension on the drumhead.

Obviously, you've already improved it, as that size drum should theoretically have three tones. (1) bass note produced by open handed center hit, (2) mid tone halfway from the center produced by using your whole fingers and upper part of the palm, and (3) a "rim shot", high tone produced by striking the head at the very edge with the end two joints of the fingers only.

I'm excited for you, Rich. Nothing better than a drum for trancing and practicing not being quite so Caucasian. Hell, if it weren't for drumming, I'd still be eating Velveeta and white bread sandwiches with mayo...

Troubleshooter · 07-12-2004, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

Because synthesizers are hard to plug in way out in a field somewhere around a bonfire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

If you ever make it to forks we can run a long extension cord from the house ... bring extra.

I'll just park a lot of batteries in my trunk and play from my laptop.

goddamn hippies...

Elspode · 07-13-2004, 01:33 PM

128 steps does not a clean filter sweep make!

richlevy · 08-14-2004, 07:32 PM

I lost my last poist in the Cellar crash. I finished the Ashiko 2 weeks ago. I sanded it and put on 3 coats of Tung oil. I restrung it with 5mm climbing rope and 2.75 mm climbing rope on the crown. I had to unwind the crown and flesh rings, which are coiled steel ribbons, because the crown ring would not go over the top of the drum with the heavy skin I used. I used black electrical tape on the flesh ring and red electrical tape and Martha Stewarts holiday ribbon on the crown and bottom rings.

Last week before my surgery I tightened it. Tonight I put aloe lotion on the head to soften it and it loosened it. I will have to re-tighten it next month when my carpal tunnel surgery heals. Since I can't use the drum until then, this is no loss.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-14-2004, 10:15 PM

Nice job Rich, now beat it.

Cain · 08-15-2004, 10:16 PM

Cool! I wondered into an import shop last year and picked this up

[Come to think about it, I shoulda picked up the hippy chick that sold it to me aswell]

07-09-2004, 01:18 AM	#17
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	If you ever make it to forks we can run a long extension cord from the house ... bring extra. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-09-2004, 10:52 AM	#19
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	d' jem beh (shorten the emphasis on the "D" sound, slide it into the jem a bit more) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-09-2004, 01:47 PM	#20
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Virtually no "d" sound at all...most of the drummers I know say it like "gem bay". __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

07-09-2004, 01:57 PM	#21
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	the d makes it clear that it's really not quite the same sound as our g, though. there's a roughening of it and the dj kind of makes that clearer ... ah, we're never gonna agree on it exactly, and it's very hard to have such a discussion in text. AND i'm not going to record my version and post it, either. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-09-2004, 08:15 PM	#23
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	I noticed the tone was way too flat when I tried it, so I had my first attempt at tuning. I haven't replaced anything yet, so I unwrapped the ropes to the point where the rope was threaded through the diamonds and PULLED. It reminded me of those Victorian movies where the maid was tying a corset. I didn't have a broom handle and I was afraid to crack the wood, so I think I held back a bit. The tone seems much better and the center has a deep bass. I don't know if I want to replace the head, but I do want to untie the ropes and clean the wood. If I do decide to reskin it, should I get a 14" or 16" goat skin? The head measures a little over 10.5 inches. Should I get a medium or thick skin? I would assume a thick skin would give me a deeper note. So far the three suppliers for goat skins I found are Mid-East Manufacturing, Columbia Music , and SunReed Instruments . The spirit in the woods shop Wolf recommended mentions new skins but doesn't list them on their page. I'm going to Home Depot this weekend for rope and something to refinish and clean the wood. I'm looking forward to this project. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

07-09-2004, 02:29 PM	#22
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	thanks!

07-09-2004, 10:15 PM	#24
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Rich, I don't know drums and I don't know wood for drums , but that rope ain't to be found at Home depot . Go to a climbing shop , any rope head can identefy it for you and you can get MANY different colors , i am thinking it looks like a 8mm rope . Good luck , and post pics as you fix it up . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner Last edited by zippyt; 07-09-2004 at 10:17 PM. Reason: spelling

07-10-2004, 03:24 PM	#25
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I would recommend stretching the existing one flat and measuring it, and then try to match it as closely as possible in size. I mean, it apparently worked once, right? When tying the diamonds, it is good to have a pencil or stout stick to pull the rope first, through tightly, then down tightly. It is the downward pull that you make that actually puts the tension on the drumhead. Obviously, you've already improved it, as that size drum should theoretically have three tones. (1) bass note produced by open handed center hit, (2) mid tone halfway from the center produced by using your whole fingers and upper part of the palm, and (3) a "rim shot", high tone produced by striking the head at the very edge with the end two joints of the fingers only. I'm excited for you, Rich. Nothing better than a drum for trancing and practicing not being quite so Caucasian. Hell, if it weren't for drumming, I'd still be eating Velveeta and white bread sandwiches with mayo... __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

07-13-2004, 01:33 PM	#27
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	128 steps does not a clean filter sweep make! __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-14-2004, 07:32 PM	#28
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Finished Drum I lost my last poist in the Cellar crash. I finished the Ashiko 2 weeks ago. I sanded it and put on 3 coats of Tung oil. I restrung it with 5mm climbing rope and 2.75 mm climbing rope on the crown. I had to unwind the crown and flesh rings, which are coiled steel ribbons, because the crown ring would not go over the top of the drum with the heavy skin I used. I used black electrical tape on the flesh ring and red electrical tape and Martha Stewarts holiday ribbon on the crown and bottom rings. Last week before my surgery I tightened it. Tonight I put aloe lotion on the head to soften it and it loosened it. I will have to re-tighten it next month when my carpal tunnel surgery heals. Since I can't use the drum until then, this is no loss. Attached Images __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama Last edited by richlevy; 08-14-2004 at 07:35 PM.

08-14-2004, 10:15 PM	#29
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Nice job Rich, now beat it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-15-2004, 10:16 PM	#30
Cain Sentimental Sentient Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cainada Posts: 38	Cool! I wondered into an import shop last year and picked this up [Come to think about it, I shoulda picked up the hippy chick that sold it to me aswell] Last edited by Cain; 08-15-2004 at 10:18 PM.

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