Al Franken...is this for real?

And you, once again, have no facts....other than referring to a Republican opinion about a two year old budget....what the fuck?

[TheMercenary]

Relevent factual citations have been referenced. Maybe you just don't click on them.

Your post is a quote (opinion) from a Republican.

What provisions of the current House/Senate rules are more restrictive than the previous Republican rules?

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

Dude - can you just agree that it got slammed through in a completely unreasonable time frame? Seriously. It was so friggin blatant. you are losing cred here. It was a joke and everyone knows it. Her trip was planned and she wasn't changing her plans for anybody.


Some - absolutely - some are very good hardworking people - just like some democrats. They just have ideological differences.
On the other hand, some of them, from both parties, need to go away - they are the problem. They are the lifelong politicians who get corrupted by the power and the money.

Charlie Christ comes to mind as a great republican who is intent on working with democrats. Arnold is another one. But the ones in the House and Senate, most of them are intent on doing everything they can to obstruct, for no reason other than they can.

It was a movie on HBO - It was as real as the bullshit Mikey Moore does. ie - not at all.

No, it wasn't. You are just saying that because it was telling the truth about a volitile issue, one that republicans have controlled for the past 8 years. yea, yea, I know. I'm a conspiracy theorist, right?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Your post is a quote (opinion) from a Republican.

What provisions of the current House/Senate rules are more restrictive than the previous Republican rules?

I trust quotes from known people over some nameless faceless ex-lobbyist. I assure you. So, you are saying he lied about the process. Hmmmmm, not what the majority of the press had reported at the time.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Charlie Christ comes to mind as a great republican who is intent on working with democrats. Arnold is another one. But the ones in the House and Senate, most of them are intent on doing everything they can to obstruct, for no reason other than they can.

The most electable Republican on a national level, IMO....if he had any other name.....

....Jeb Bush.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No, as I have posted they did not provide transparency by not releasing the details of the budget through a very short suspence. Stop being such an apologist. It was all over the news.

From what I remember hearing, if the budget wasn't passed the government would have shut down, like it did when Clinton was in office, and that is why it had to go through quickly. Does anyone know if that is true? Redux?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I trust quotes from known people over some nameless faceless ex-lobbyist. I assure you.

So you have no facts to support his quote..either did he...

And I assume you still cant cite any provisions of the current House/Senate rules that are more restrictive than the previous Republican rules...either could any Republican member of Congress when pressed.

[classicman]

Sugarpoppyseed - lay off the hard stuff its frying your brain.

Read the posts that responded to yours. See the reality. Its not as slanted as you think. It really isn't.

(see below) I quoted it since you apparently missed it the first time.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I gave you documented information from the New York Times...

You gave me a weak memory of some scene that frightened you in a film made for pay TV by the guy who did the Austin Powers films.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

So you have not facts to support his quote..either did he...

You don't have facts that it did not happen that way or you would have posted them.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I gave you documented information from the New York Times...

You gave me a weak memory of some scene that frightened you in a film made for pay TV by the guy who did the Austin Powers films.

So are you saying that scene wasn't real then?

I think worrying about our elections is very relevant, considering how fucked up they have been for the past eight years. You think I'm stupid for wanting to fix that? All righty then. I guess you don't really believe in democracy...

[classicman]

Redux/Merc - THATS IT! You're both on report!

Good grief - let it go both of you.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

From what I remember hearing, if the budget wasn't passed the government would have shut down, like it did when Clinton was in office, and that is why it had to go through quickly. Does anyone know if that is true? Redux?

sugar...if the appropriation bills are not adopted by Sept 30 each year, all or part of the federal government would shut down the next day.

It backfired on Gingrich and the Republicans when they went that route rather than face a Clinton veto on several of the bills.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I think worrying about our elections is very relevant, considering how fucked up they have been for the past eight years. You think I'm stupid for wanting to fix that? All righty then. I guess you don't really believe in democracy...

If you are really worried about the elections then start looking very closely at ACORN and its ties...
Oh and this is a republic - not a democracy - just sayin.

Originally Posted by classicman

If you are really worried about the elections then start looking very closely at ACORN and its ties...

In the words of a wise dweller...."good grief, let it go"