Christians and Pagans - Page 3

Whit · 09-07-2003, 02:58 PM

      Nah Syc, in Bruces post 'Equitable' means 'I'll get mine'. Which, unless you're a politician, or the good friend of one, isn't Communism. Not in the real world anyway. Kinda capitalistic actually...

elSicomoro · 09-07-2003, 03:05 PM

I was referring to the concept as a whole, not Bruce's comment in particular.

Not like Christianity is any better...they're like conservative extremists...bastard Christians!

Whit · 09-07-2003, 03:17 PM

      Oh c'mon Syc, just Juju out on us completely here and say, "Batard Religious People!" You know you want to...

elSicomoro · 09-07-2003, 03:19 PM

Nah, I'll one up that...

All of those involved in organized forms of worship must be eradicated from the face of the earth.

How's that?

xoxoxoBruce · 09-07-2003, 04:22 PM

Goshes golly guys, I just wanted Bill Gates to send Syc a check. A large check.:p

Seriously there's no harm in hoping (praying) that the people with excess wealth decide to distribute some of it, in a way that benefits ones self. Your not wishing any ill on anybody or trying to deprive them of what's rightfully theirs.

elSicomoro · 09-07-2003, 04:40 PM

I think vaccinating third world children is much more important than giving me money...not that I would refuse it though.

I think it's important to give back if you have the means to do so. But that's just me personally...these days, it seems expected--almost demanded, really--from the wealthy.

Elspode · 09-07-2003, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
Nah, I'll one up that...

All of those involved in organized forms of worship must be eradicated from the face of the earth.

How's that?

Whew! Thank all that is holy that Paganism can in no way be described as organized! Guess us Wiccans are safe... :p

Elspode · 09-07-2003, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Whit
      Interesting. I find I really like the soft approach in use here. I also really like the willingness to accept it if it doesn't come. Seems realistic to me.
      Question: you say "universe wants" do you mean Goddess/God or are you refering to some natural balancing that doesn't actually have a mind per se, just evening things like a scale does. In natural response to weight?

From my point of view, the it is the latter. There is a natural balance and order to things (although I cannot completely discount the possibility of an order of intelligence operating somewhere within the grand scheme of things...an order of which our own minds are a part, but of which we are not overtly aware).

Since we are a part of all that there is, then our actions (say, an abundance spell) are also a part of the natural order, and we are just trying to bring abundance to ourselves via natural methods, with an equitable and balanced result.

Dagney · 09-07-2003, 10:42 PM

Els..

I was wondering, I've got a bunch of questions about Wicca and the Celtic Paths. If I got them together, and posted them here, would you be willing to discuss them?

Dagney

Elspode · 09-07-2003, 11:34 PM

I would be happy to answer any and all questions. If I don't know the answer (or have an opinion that *sounds* like an answer), I'll say "I dunno"...

Break the list up into small parts for my small mind and short attention span, though.

Whit · 09-08-2003, 01:18 AM

      Okay Ep, so if our minds are part of the order and requesting the abundance is natural... So, is nature pushing our buttons to make us take a balancing action? That borders on predestination. Or would we be enjoying abundance like a wolf enjoying deer overpopulation and thus bringing things back to balance only to risk hunger next year?
      I know this is getting pretty deep in, but I'm much more interested in the psychology than the trapings of any given religion, philosophy or belief system.

juju · 09-08-2003, 02:06 AM

Maybe if LOVEBUGZ deletes enough posts, then later on she'll actually be able to convince people that she is a victim.

Whit · 09-08-2003, 02:16 AM

      Don't know what you're talking about Juju. Hey I was just going over the thread and I've become a bit concearned. Dagney seems to be talking to herself. Also, your initial post makes no sense whatsoever in context and I just realized that I jumped Bruce's ass about needing verification for no reason whatsoever. Go figure. Strange thread...

juju · 09-08-2003, 02:25 AM

Perhaps if I delete <i>my</i> posts whenever I make myself look like a fool, then people won't think I'm a fool?

Dagney · 09-08-2003, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Whit
Dagney seems to be talking to herself.

I seem to do that a lot lately. I blame it on HIPAA implementation.

Either that, or I'm finally losing what little grasp on reality I DO have

09-07-2003, 02:58 PM	#31
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Nah Syc, in Bruces post 'Equitable' means 'I'll get mine'. Which, unless you're a politician, or the good friend of one, isn't Communism. Not in the real world anyway. Kinda capitalistic actually... __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

09-07-2003, 03:17 PM	#33
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Oh c'mon Syc, just Juju out on us completely here and say, "Batard Religious People!" You know you want to... __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

09-07-2003, 04:22 PM	#35
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Goshes golly guys, I just wanted Bill Gates to send Syc a check. A large check.:p Seriously there's no harm in hoping (praying) that the people with excess wealth decide to distribute some of it, in a way that benefits ones self. Your not wishing any ill on anybody or trying to deprive them of what's rightfully theirs. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 09-07-2003 at 04:31 PM.

09-07-2003, 10:42 PM	#39
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	Learning... Els.. I was wondering, I've got a bunch of questions about Wicca and the Celtic Paths. If I got them together, and posted them here, would you be willing to discuss them? Dagney __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to.

09-07-2003, 11:34 PM	#40
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I would be happy to answer any and all questions. If I don't know the answer (or have an opinion that sounds like an answer), I'll say "I dunno"... Break the list up into small parts for my small mind and short attention span, though. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

09-07-2003, 03:05 PM	#32
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I was referring to the concept as a whole, not Bruce's comment in particular. Not like Christianity is any better...they're like conservative extremists...bastard Christians!

09-07-2003, 03:19 PM	#34
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Nah, I'll one up that... All of those involved in organized forms of worship must be eradicated from the face of the earth. How's that?

09-07-2003, 04:40 PM	#36
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I think vaccinating third world children is much more important than giving me money...not that I would refuse it though. I think it's important to give back if you have the means to do so. But that's just me personally...these days, it seems expected--almost demanded, really--from the wealthy.

09-08-2003, 01:18 AM	#41
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Okay Ep, so if our minds are part of the order and requesting the abundance is natural... So, is nature pushing our buttons to make us take a balancing action? That borders on predestination. Or would we be enjoying abundance like a wolf enjoying deer overpopulation and thus bringing things back to balance only to risk hunger next year?       I know this is getting pretty deep in, but I'm much more interested in the psychology than the trapings of any given religion, philosophy or belief system. __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

09-08-2003, 02:06 AM	#42
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Maybe if LOVEBUGZ deletes enough posts, then later on she'll actually be able to convince people that she is a victim.

09-08-2003, 02:16 AM	#43
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Don't know what you're talking about Juju. Hey I was just going over the thread and I've become a bit concearned. Dagney seems to be talking to herself. Also, your initial post makes no sense whatsoever in context and I just realized that I jumped Bruce's ass about needing verification for no reason whatsoever. Go figure. Strange thread... __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

09-08-2003, 02:25 AM	#44
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Perhaps if I delete <i>my</i> posts whenever I make myself look like a fool, then people won't think I'm a fool?

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