Sarah Palin

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

Doesn't really matter. McCain is leaps and bounds above Obama in knowledge and experience... and he is running for President.

You read my mind. in the future.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by dar512

Cute.

But I still think it shows that the 'experience' thing isn't a real issue.

SO then why is everyone who does not like Palin keep bringing it up then?

[Pie]

Because she also has no brain *and* no education.

1. She can't figure it out for herself. (Obama & Biden can)
2. She hasn't experienced it for herself.(Biden & McCain can)
3. No one has told her the answer. (Obama, Biden & McCain)

[monster]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

I think you mean Diagnosis Murder.
Although thinking about it, Dick Van Dyke does a lot more chatting and trotting about and having people try to kill him than any real medical procedures.

No, I don't, but if it fits under the umbrella we can surely include it Don't watch much TV/movies, cannot stand Dick Van Dick so definitely did not see that.... sounds like I didn't miss too much. I went through a phase of reading medical-based thrillers and they're all the damn same story, though....

[monster]

Originally Posted by classicman

puhlease -

Originally Posted by classicman

whatevah

Govenor Palin, is that you?

[Sheldonrs]

Obama - less experience; better judgement

McCain - More experience, bad judgement and temperment

Biden - More experience, sometimes trips over his own thoughts

Palin - Stupid fucking cunt!

[dar512]

Originally Posted by classicman

Because there is one exception to the rule? Who do you want performing surgery on you an intern or an experienced surgeon?

It's not a very good analogy.

1. Neither candidate has experience... being president. They both have experience being senators.
2. John McCain's degree is a BS in midshipmanship
3. Barack Obama has a B.A. in Political Science with a specialization in International Relations. He also has a magna cum laude degree in law from Harvard.

[Undertoad]

with a specialization in International Relations

And he still doesn't know why the POTUS doesn't meet with the leader of Iran?

/voting for him anyway

[dar512]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

And he still doesn't know why the POTUS doesn't meet with the leader of Iran?

/voting for him anyway

I don't have a degree in international relations. Tell me.

[Undertoad]

It's a principle of international relations that when the President meets with heads of state, it makes them more powerful and gives them a gravitas (although I hate that word) that they might not deserve. Meeting with Ahmadinejad would give Ahmadinejad greater power within his country and region. We prefer to see him isolated and less powerful to affect what happens in his region. Actually meeting with him would cause him to be seen as a serious power broker, which he actually isn't. (In Iran, more power is vested in the religious leaders who *actually* have final say.)

This is doubly true in cultures where dialogue is seen as weakness... such as it is in the Middle East.

For example, after Nancy Pelosi (third in line for POTUS) met with Syria's Assad, he then spent some time shutting down dissidents, because it was believed that he could:

Even Syrians outside the inner circle of activists seem shaken by the conviction, shortly after Ms. Pelosi’s return to Washington, of Syria’s best-known human-rights lawyer, Anwar al-Bunni. Mr. al-Bunni was convicted of “spreading information that could weaken national morale” and “joining an international organization without proper authorization,” for which he was given a five-year prison sentence.

This principle is not well understood, and so when Obama said in a debate that he would meet with certain foreign leaders without any preconditions, it was a gaffe. Since then the Obama campaign has changed that to "negotiate" not "meet" but since people don't really grasp the principle behind it, it remains debate fodder. There's nothing wrong with negotiating with such leaders, but the negotiation happens at the State Dept level, and with brokers, not the actual POTUS. I remain convinced that Obama is merely covering up the gaffe at this point, and if he becomes Pres, the folks at State will explain the principle and business will continue as usual.

[Radar]

There's a new thing going around the net. People are replacing the words of Hitler in the movie "The Downfall"

Here's one I like. They also do one against Obama.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

It's a principle of international relations that when the President meets with heads of state, it makes them more powerful and gives them a gravitas (although I hate that word) that they might not deserve.

Did you notice how the Venezuelan nut Chaves has gravitas in South America because he neither meets nor negotiates with the Bush administration?

[Undertoad]

That appears to be an entirely different argument.

[Pico and ME]

I'm sure that depends on viewpoint or on which side of the line you are standing on.

[Happy Monkey]

He doesn't want to give Bush undeserved gravitas.