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Payback
Senator Maria Cantwell, (D) WA, stuffed Senator Ted Stevens' (R) AK, attempt to "piggyback" a provision to permit drilling in ANWAR recently. (cite. There are numerous others, it was all over the news.) Now the payback for her impertinence has begun.
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Where does this icebreaker break ice? Certainly not Seattle.
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Artic Ocean.
Home port is Seattle. Repairs in Seattle. Drydock in Seattle. Haulouts in Seattle (or San Diego). Crew families in Seattle. Memorable quote from AK pol: "I think the icebreaker should go where the ice is." Ahh, but he's not suggesting that the ship be based in Barrow. Anchorage. Year round ice free port. The Coast Guard (a group that should know) has advised against the move, for several reasons, including significantly higher costs and lower morale. My point mostly was: the pol put the move in **alone** without consultation. Not with the people he was moving, not with the committee responsible for understanding these issues, not with anybody. Just a power grab/f*ckyouverymuch. I will say this. Unlike the previous attempt to slipstream the ANWAR drilling rider on the back of the Defense appropriations bill, this wide scope one sentence change was attatched a bill having to do with the Coast Guard. Perhaps that will be his mistake.
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The entire USCG fleet has one homeport, Seattle. It makes sense to have all *three* ships in one place, don't you think? A certain economy of scale?
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So, what DOES Alaska have in the way of a permanent USCG fleet? They're ALL based in Seattle? Shouldn't Alaska have SOMETHING? I mean there is a lot of coastal waters off the state of Alaska. And not that I agree with what appears to be some congressman's act of retaliation. Just curious.
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There are Cutters stationed in Kodiak, Sitka, and Ketchican. The breakers need to be based in Seattle for logistical reasons. The congress critters need to stay out of things they dont understand. Terry L. Bell USCG 76-80 CG Aux 05- Present
PS I was stationed on the CGC Confidence in Kodiak
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So it's the cutters and bases that are the first line in search & rescue, aid to ships, and law enforcement. The breakers are more for planned operations, scientific support and of course ice breaking.
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Right Bruce you get a cookie.
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Our proud fleet serves aid and comfort to Southern waters too.
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Nobody calls Barrow a port, even in these warming times. There is of course a logistic logic to stationing icebreakers near or in their AO -- given the presence of the necessary facilities, of course. That would have to happen, right up front.
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And among the many logical considerations as to the stationing of icebreakers, including logistics, when the AO is pole to pole, you're going to have to think a little harder to persuade me that Anchorage is better than San Diego. And nothing in this maneuver has been up front. All stealth, misdirection and independent solitary initiative. Yay initiative. When you know what you're talking about.
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