The need for speed

SteveDallas · 04-29-2005, 11:59 PM

I had previously had my DSL through a small local ISP that was reselling Verizon. At the time I got it the speed was 768/128, and the cost was less than Verizon. Over two years later, I'm getting the same speed at the same price while Verizon has lowered their price and upped their speed. Their latest offer of $29.95 for 3.0/768 service was simply irresistable, and my existing ISP seemed unable or unwilling to come close to either the price or the speed. Which is probably, ultimately, Verizon's fault, but I decided it was too much of an upgrade not to get. It was complicated because Verizon's pea-brained computer system apparently couldn't handle an ISP change and a speed upgrade at the same time, so first they moved me over, then after I complained that the speed was the same, they determined that since they had already put me in the computer for 3.0, the only thing they could do was change me to 1.5, and then (after I called and asked them again--because they can only handle one order at a time) change to 3.0.

The whole business reminds me once again (like I need it) why I can't stand dealing with Verizon. Though I have to say, except for the Byzantine upgrade process, their phone support was OK. They actually listened to me & checked out my line, and didn't just say "well we don't guarantee a particular speed, it's probably something wrong with your computer" which is kind of what I had expected.

Anyways. It's all over. The final results:

Undertoad · 04-30-2005, 12:31 AM

As of Thursday I have Verizon FIOS.

15 mbps down, 2 up.

Let me know where that test is.

Undertoad · 04-30-2005, 12:47 AM

Nevermind, found it.

2005-04-30 01:45:19 EST: 15002 / 1822
Your download speed : 15362809 bps, or 15002 kbps.
A 1875.3 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 1866251 bps, or 1822 kbps.

Pw3nd. Ah fiber!! The promise of our brave new world finally delivered!!

For the first time in my life, Verizon's rollout plans put me first on the block. Well I could have paid $199 / month for the 30 down version.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-30-2005, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Nevermind, found it.

I'm happy for you but what about the rest of us? WHERE did you find it?

Found this.

SteveDallas · 06-30-2006, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Pw3nd. Ah fiber!! The promise of our brave new world finally delivered!!

Brave new world eh? Have you heard anything about this? (I'm guessing you don't have one since it's new, right?)

SteveDallas · 04-30-2005, 07:46 AM

Once again, I see that keeping up with you is a futile effort.

I wonder when they're bringing it ot my neighborhood? I presume we'll notice the actual fiber installation (just like you did) when it happens.

So what are you planning to do with your megabandwidth?

The sort of sad thing is that we just have a T1 at work. For the whole campus. But at this point it's not economical to upgrade (unless we switch to DSL, which I'm not convinced has the stability I'd need to trust it in that environment) and anyway we're not maxing it out.

Elspode · 04-30-2005, 08:10 AM

Ah, Jeez. I was feeling pretty good about having just under 5mbps RoadRunner cable broadband, and then UT has to go and get all CIA quality on me...

Undertoad · 04-30-2005, 08:23 AM

The speed tests are at dslreports.com, click on tests.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-30-2005, 08:41 AM

Tank u.

SteveDallas · 04-30-2005, 09:03 AM

There's also one at http://infospeed.verizon.net, but I believe they restrict it to Verizon customers.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-30-2005, 09:41 AM

That dslreports.com is a good resource.
Interesting; 4040 down and 340 up to Philadelphia,
.................2757 down and 356 up to Seattle.

SteveDallas · 04-30-2005, 10:25 AM

Bruce... I can't believe you fuzzed out your IP address. You should have substituted 127.0.0.1 for it!

There are more routers & stuff between your computer and Seattle.. that slows things down. Testing to a system that is close (in terms of the network) to you gives you a more accurate assessment of your line speed--which may have no resemblance to the speed you get connecting to an actual web site.

Undertoad · 04-30-2005, 10:52 AM

Many websites such as the Cellar are still connected via T1 and so there is no way you will get any more than 1.5Mbps to it. There aren't that many legit reasons to get fiber yet, unless you do an unreasonable amount of downloading, such as you need to download kernels, or if you enjoy porn or pirated movies and TV.

But the fact that Verizon is putting it in, means that the battle royale is now officially ON between Verizon and Comcast. Soon Verizon will start shipping TV shows over that link, and after that we're off to the races...

BrianR · 04-30-2005, 10:55 AM

I tried that test too...I did okay.

*********

Speed

954.6 kilobits per second
Communications 954.6 kilobits per second
Storage 116.5 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 8.8 seconds
Subjective rating Good

zippyt · 04-30-2005, 11:11 AM

Oh FUCK all you broad band , fiber opitc , cable , and T1 haveing MFer's !!!!!

Dial up RULES !!!!!

That is until they get DSL out here in the woods ( i have been waiting for 8 years now ) .
My other options are SAT ( at $95 ) , fixed wireless ( $65 ) , and i think i can get cable ( $???)

04-29-2005, 11:59 PM	#1
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	The need for speed I had previously had my DSL through a small local ISP that was reselling Verizon. At the time I got it the speed was 768/128, and the cost was less than Verizon. Over two years later, I'm getting the same speed at the same price while Verizon has lowered their price and upped their speed. Their latest offer of $29.95 for 3.0/768 service was simply irresistable, and my existing ISP seemed unable or unwilling to come close to either the price or the speed. Which is probably, ultimately, Verizon's fault, but I decided it was too much of an upgrade not to get. It was complicated because Verizon's pea-brained computer system apparently couldn't handle an ISP change and a speed upgrade at the same time, so first they moved me over, then after I complained that the speed was the same, they determined that since they had already put me in the computer for 3.0, the only thing they could do was change me to 1.5, and then (after I called and asked them again--because they can only handle one order at a time) change to 3.0. The whole business reminds me once again (like I need it) why I can't stand dealing with Verizon. Though I have to say, except for the Byzantine upgrade process, their phone support was OK. They actually listened to me & checked out my line, and didn't just say "well we don't guarantee a particular speed, it's probably something wrong with your computer" which is kind of what I had expected. Anyways. It's all over. The final results: Attached Images Last edited by SteveDallas; 04-30-2005 at 12:03 AM.

04-30-2005, 08:10 AM	#7
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Ah, Jeez. I was feeling pretty good about having just under 5mbps RoadRunner cable broadband, and then UT has to go and get all CIA quality on me... __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

04-30-2005, 08:41 AM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Tank u. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-30-2005, 09:41 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That dslreports.com is a good resource. Interesting; 4040 down and 340 up to Philadelphia, .................2757 down and 356 up to Seattle. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-30-2005, 10:55 AM	#14
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I tried that test too...I did okay. ********* Speed 954.6 kilobits per second Communications 954.6 kilobits per second Storage 116.5 kilobytes per second 1MB file download 8.8 seconds Subjective rating Good __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

04-30-2005, 12:31 AM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	As of Thursday I have Verizon FIOS. 15 mbps down, 2 up. Let me know where that test is.

04-30-2005, 12:47 AM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Nevermind, found it. 2005-04-30 01:45:19 EST: 15002 / 1822 Your download speed : 15362809 bps, or 15002 kbps. A 1875.3 KB/sec transfer rate. Your upload speed : 1866251 bps, or 1822 kbps. Pw3nd. Ah fiber!! The promise of our brave new world finally delivered!! For the first time in my life, Verizon's rollout plans put me first on the block. Well I could have paid $199 / month for the 30 down version.

04-30-2005, 07:46 AM	#6
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Once again, I see that keeping up with you is a futile effort. I wonder when they're bringing it ot my neighborhood? I presume we'll notice the actual fiber installation (just like you did) when it happens. So what are you planning to do with your megabandwidth? The sort of sad thing is that we just have a T1 at work. For the whole campus. But at this point it's not economical to upgrade (unless we switch to DSL, which I'm not convinced has the stability I'd need to trust it in that environment) and anyway we're not maxing it out.

04-30-2005, 08:23 AM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The speed tests are at dslreports.com, click on tests.

04-30-2005, 09:03 AM	#10
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	There's also one at http://infospeed.verizon.net, but I believe they restrict it to Verizon customers.

04-30-2005, 10:25 AM	#12
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Bruce... I can't believe you fuzzed out your IP address. You should have substituted 127.0.0.1 for it! There are more routers & stuff between your computer and Seattle.. that slows things down. Testing to a system that is close (in terms of the network) to you gives you a more accurate assessment of your line speed--which may have no resemblance to the speed you get connecting to an actual web site.

04-30-2005, 10:52 AM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Many websites such as the Cellar are still connected via T1 and so there is no way you will get any more than 1.5Mbps to it. There aren't that many legit reasons to get fiber yet, unless you do an unreasonable amount of downloading, such as you need to download kernels, or if you enjoy porn or pirated movies and TV. But the fact that Verizon is putting it in, means that the battle royale is now officially ON between Verizon and Comcast. Soon Verizon will start shipping TV shows over that link, and after that we're off to the races...

04-30-2005, 11:11 AM	#15
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Oh FUCK all you broad band , fiber opitc , cable , and T1 haveing MFer's !!!!! Dial up RULES !!!!! That is until they get DSL out here in the woods ( i have been waiting for 8 years now ) . My other options are SAT ( at $95 ) , fixed wireless ( $65 ) , and i think i can get cable ( $???) __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

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