Sexual assault

xoxoxoBruce · 08-21-2003, 07:04 PM

Grrrr I don't get it.
A 14 yo boy and a 14 yo girl get caught naked in bed before then have sex. They both freely admit sex was there intention and nobody was coerced.
The boy is charged with a serious crime.
The girl is charged with a misdemeanor.
First of all to charge either one is silly, IMO. But the difference in the charges is clearly sexist.

SteveDallas · 08-21-2003, 07:51 PM

I can't hepl but think there's more to the story that we're getting from this article. I mean, jeez, the boy's dad says he refuses to listen to him... a teenager who won't listen to his parents? Man! We don't have enough jails to lock em all up.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-21-2003, 08:41 PM

They both clearly need a knot up side the gourd but I insist they both get the same knot.

Annebonannie · 08-21-2003, 08:58 PM

I think it all boils down to the fact that the prosecuter has a deep seated anger that she ended up with a name like Kornblum.

juju · 08-22-2003, 12:34 AM

Another set of lives ruined because of blatant stupidity. Our legal system truly does suck.

juju · 08-22-2003, 12:42 AM

Perhaps there is more to this story than just the sex. But how bad does your kid have to be for you to go and throw them in jail?

JeepNGeorge · 08-22-2003, 01:49 AM

Why didn't I find any 14 yr old girls like that when I was that age????

Skunks · 08-22-2003, 06:30 AM

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"Sex between kids is not legal," said Assistant District Attorney Lori Kornblum

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"The reason I charged this case was because of their attitude," Kornblum says. "I believe they had to be brought before an authority."

She sounds like a bitter old hag. I'm reminded of Ms. Crabtree, having recently watched that Southpark episode with the icecream and teetering school bus. I wonder if she's seeking vengeance for not having gotten any as a teen? One must wonder, with a last name like "Kornblum".

Griff · 08-22-2003, 06:39 AM

"I believe they had to be brought before an authority."

I didn't read the article but I guess its safe to say these children don't have parents?

russotto · 08-22-2003, 10:53 AM

They have parents, but the boy's father hated him enough to tell the prosecutors he was violating a deferred prosecution agreement, and the girl's mother called the cops on them in the first place.

What these kids really needed was to learn about the Fifth Amendment. Specifically, the right to remain silent. If they had refused to tell authorities anything, the authorities would have had no case -- even if they didn't respect the prosecutor's AUTHOWITAY, which seems to be what the case is really about.

Gotta love the bit in the article about "While authorities say their prosecution is meant to help, not punish, the teens". Yeah. Like a felony conviction helps anyone. The only thing more stupid would be if they were charging them as adults.

Undertoad · 08-22-2003, 11:12 AM

In some jurisdictions, a minor charged with a felony sexual assault will still be labeled a "sexual predator" for life, with all that neighbor notification and whatnot.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-22-2003, 05:21 PM

Another indication of Ms Kornblums repressed hate is that "he" gets felony and "she" gets misdemeanor. Bitch!

juju · 08-22-2003, 11:11 PM

Well of course. Aren't women always being oppressed? He probably led her astray, or something. Damned dirty males.

Whit · 08-22-2003, 11:45 PM

     Heh, this is cute.

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Not to punish the children, she said, but to help them through various court-ordered services.

     Don't you wish you had someone willing to help you like that when you were young?

     Jokes aside, both kids are clearly fucked up. Maybe their parents didn't care enough or they had bad potty training, don't know, don't care. This got started as a threat and has snowballed strictly because of the way they act. I've known lots of people with abandonment issues and people that were sexually molested at a young age. You know what? They coped as teens and continue to cope without challenging anyone to call the police. Hell, I did lots of stuff as a teen that wasn't, ahem, strictly legal, but if I got caught I didn't talk shit. That's life and if they can't handle it then prison as adults will await them.

     And yes Bruce, charging the boy more severely than the girl is bullshit.

Tobiasly · 08-29-2003, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Another indication of Ms Kornblums repressed hate is that "he" gets felony and "she" gets misdemeanor. Bitch!

From the article:

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The boy is being held in secure detention on a charge of attempted second-degree sexual assault, a felony that carries a possible juvenile prison term.

The girl pleaded guilty to fourth degree sexual assault, a misdemeanor, but is charged with violating her probation; a warrant has been issued for her arrest.

It doesn't say how the boy pleaded. Maybe the girl's less-severe charge is due to a plea bargain?

You simply can't reach the conclusion you're jumping to without more information.

08-21-2003, 07:04 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sexual assault Grrrr I don't get it. A 14 yo boy and a 14 yo girl get caught naked in bed before then have sex. They both freely admit sex was there intention and nobody was coerced. The boy is charged with a serious crime. The girl is charged with a misdemeanor. First of all to charge either one is silly, IMO. But the difference in the charges is clearly sexist. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-21-2003, 08:41 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They both clearly need a knot up side the gourd but I insist they both get the same knot. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-21-2003, 08:58 PM	#4
Annebonannie Paramour of Paradigm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 41	I think it all boils down to the fact that the prosecuter has a deep seated anger that she ended up with a name like Kornblum. __________________ "I thank God I was raised Catholic, so sex will always be dirty" -John Waters

08-22-2003, 06:39 AM	#9
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	"I believe they had to be brought before an authority." I didn't read the article but I guess its safe to say these children don't have parents? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-22-2003, 05:21 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Another indication of Ms Kornblums repressed hate is that "he" gets felony and "she" gets misdemeanor. Bitch! __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-21-2003, 07:51 PM	#2
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	I can't hepl but think there's more to the story that we're getting from this article. I mean, jeez, the boy's dad says he refuses to listen to him... a teenager who won't listen to his parents? Man! We don't have enough jails to lock em all up.

08-22-2003, 12:34 AM	#5
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Another set of lives ruined because of blatant stupidity. Our legal system truly does suck.

08-22-2003, 12:42 AM	#6
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Perhaps there is more to this story than just the sex. But how bad does your kid have to be for you to go and throw them in jail?

08-22-2003, 01:49 AM	#7
JeepNGeorge Hand-of-Kindness Extender Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Where am I? Posts: 139	Why didn't I find any 14 yr old girls like that when I was that age????

08-22-2003, 10:53 AM	#10
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	They have parents, but the boy's father hated him enough to tell the prosecutors he was violating a deferred prosecution agreement, and the girl's mother called the cops on them in the first place. What these kids really needed was to learn about the Fifth Amendment. Specifically, the right to remain silent. If they had refused to tell authorities anything, the authorities would have had no case -- even if they didn't respect the prosecutor's AUTHOWITAY, which seems to be what the case is really about. Gotta love the bit in the article about "While authorities say their prosecution is meant to help, not punish, the teens". Yeah. Like a felony conviction helps anyone. The only thing more stupid would be if they were charging them as adults.

08-22-2003, 11:12 AM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	In some jurisdictions, a minor charged with a felony sexual assault will still be labeled a "sexual predator" for life, with all that neighbor notification and whatnot.

08-22-2003, 11:11 PM	#13
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Well of course. Aren't women always being oppressed? He probably led her astray, or something. Damned dirty males.

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