Brown Shirts?

[Spexxvet]

Rand Paul Supporters Violently Assault Female MoveOn Rep Outside KY-Sen Debate Site

[xoxoxoBruce]

[Shawnee123]

Bunch of goddam fucking rednecks.

That head stomping guy needs shot in the face. Gave me flashbacks to American History X.

(late edit: AND flashbacks to The Tracy Thurmann story where the woman got her head stomped on repeatedly by her abusive ex fuck piece of shit goddam husband.)

Zero tolerance.

[Flint]

He didn't stomp on her head, his foot slipped!

while he was stomping on a different part of her

while she was on the ground getting B F I T M

[SamIam]

Kentucky can have their neo-nazi. I'm just glad I don't live there anymore. I looked him up and he sounds like the standard politician du jour, feeding the masses what they want to hear and not meaning a single word.

It warms my heart to see that he is apparently in the coal industry's hip pocket. The EPA's very shadow shall not desecrate eastern Kentucky's strip mines, slag heaps, unsightly tailings, etc. Let those hillbilly miners stay black on the outside to remind them of their role as Kentucky's perpetual underclass.

I sent Paul an e-mail on his campaign site demanding that he apologize to the lady in question. I'm not holding my breath.

[xoxoxoBruce]

His name is Mike Pezzano from the committee to organize that rally.

[Happy Monkey]

Another one, Tim Profitt, claims to be the actual head stomper. The article says he apologized, but the only provided details of the apology are that the camera angle made it look worse than it was, the police should have gotten involved, and that the victim had been reported to authorities.

[Pico and ME]

Tea partiers are some mean bad asses, huh. Thats just disgusting and seriously sick.

[Bogart]

Until people stop tearing each other apart, nothing is much likely to get done. You don't change someone's political leanings by giving their head a good stomping. It's not the individual that is to blame.

It's an odd thing to watch. I was rooting for the tea party, because it started as a real organization based in the solid beliefs of individuals who were pissed about the bailouts. Then Hannity, Palin and others stepped in to redirect and suddenly all talk of the bailouts was gone. That familiar mantra that "what's good for business is good for the individual" was touted and all talk is now seemingly back on the old course. I figure there are a few people out there with a clear vision, but mostly I see that people are easily manipulated.

One thing Obama has done is completely polarize the majority of the populous against the Democrats. Things are so bad that suddenly Bush is welcome. I see this as an indicator that the next president elect will be the biggest, baddest bastard to have come along yet. I'm guessing it will be Perry from Texas, but who really knows. I'm just positive it will be curtains for all of us.

One thing is for certain, government never relinquishes power.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Bogart

Until people stop tearing each other apart, nothing is much likely to get done. You don't change someone's political leanings by giving their head a good stomping.

True. Molotov Cocktails work much better.

Although honestly I don't see civilian political extremism necessarily as bad as long as it doesn't go too far. They are the ones that will actually get shit done compared to moderates. It's when political extremism gets into the government that we get a problem. Civilians can only push politics one way or another, elected officials can do some real damage.

[Bogart]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

True. Molotov Cocktails work much better.

Although honestly I don't see civilian political extremism necessarily as bad as long as it doesn't go too far. They are the ones that will actually get shit done compared to moderates. It's when political extremism gets into the government that we get a problem. Civilians can only push politics one way or another, elected officials can do some real damage.

I cheer both sides, as long as someone is getting up and doing something, anything.... But I don't agree, or understand the hypocritical action of ganging up and shouting down someone countering your exercise of free speech. I guess that's what happens when frustration sets due to a lack of leadership and an inability to be clever with a calm head.

It was a despicable act. One lone voice amongst a sea of supporters and (possibly) the organizer decides it is a good idea to stomp their head? WTF? I'm sure the other 364 days he's a normal guy, but there's seriously something unresolved in his personality.

Extremism is effective because it involves goals and a clear vision. Induce a dose of altruism into your subjects and you are good to go with a rabid mob ahead of you. No politician has risen up yet which can seem to muster that kind of support, so we continue into the abyss. With all that has occurred, and is still happening, you'd think someone could rally a little righteous indignation amongst the people.

....and I don't mean by pitting them against each other.

Anarchy is effective too, but it always ends the same way. Some leader rises from the ashes and ends up a dictator.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Bogart

Extremism is effective because it involves goals and a clear vision. Induce a dose of altruism into your subjects and you are good to go with a rabid mob ahead of you. No politician has risen up yet which can seem to muster that kind of support, so we continue into the abyss. With all that has occurred, and is still happening, you'd think someone could rally a little righteous indignation amongst the people.

....and I don't mean by pitting them against each other.

I don't think Americans will get too violent even if a leaders tries that route. Palin and Obama have gotten a lot of support and I don't think anyone more extreme will be able to accomplish what they have. Americans are very good at complaining but I see very few actually resorting to violence unless it gets REALLY bad economically.

[Bogart]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I don't think Americans will get too unruly just yet. Palin and Obama have gotten a lot of support and I don't think anyone more extreme will be able to accomplish what they did. Americans are very good at complaining but I see very few actually resorting to violence unless it gets REALLY bad economically.

I see the majority as easily placated and led along by the nose. People are afraid of violence, people are afraid of change, people just want to go on living the American Dream; even if it's been placed more out of reach. Threaten that with some indistinct boogeyman and you have a war which has no borders. Threaten that by pointing at a viable candidate who is espousing real change and he/she will be branded a threat, or a kook.

So no, unless they are looking at starving, or shivering in the cold, you won't find much civil unrest. But, how much longer can the handouts go on? I don't see any clear plan for a recovery and I see a general misunderstanding of the monetary system among our politicians. The majority of the people don't have a clue how it all works either, but then you would think it would pique their interest when shown the amortization sheet for their mortgage.

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by Bogart

I see this as an indicator that the next president elect will be the biggest, baddest bastard to have come along yet. I'm guessing it will be Perry from Texas, but who really knows.

That made me

You're right though, he is a bastard.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Bogart

I'm just positive it will be curtains for all of us.

Howdy, Bogart, welcome and all that. They said the sky would fall in and crush our skulls when Reagan got elected in 1980, because he reckoned it good to defeat and smash the Communists. We're still fine. Some others, more directly Communist-plagued than we were, are doing even better than they were.

They said Paradise was at hand when Clinton got in -- voted against the man myself -- him being a Democrat. We all remember how that Administration turned out -- overly anti-American and anticonstitutional too, and politically reflecting its upbringing in a one-party state, Arkansas. As Presidential timber, Clinton was balsa wood. No Paradise.

They bewailed G.W. Bush as an apocalypse, and lied relentlessly about the man in an attempt to punish him for his heinous act: practicing foreign policy while Republican. How terrible is that?

Fortunately for the Republic, Bush43 did not greatly concern himself with the howlings made in the service of the fascists' fellow travelers. I suppose there may have been some honestly mistaken individuals in that chorus, but the prototalitarian leanings of the majority were as evident as they were disgusting to the people of freedom.

One thing is for certain, government never relinquishes power.

Not without circumcising a lot of government dick. And you might as well do it daily, just to keep up.