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01-15-2009, 10:48 AM | #1 |
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Gitmo Update
I know we have discussed this subject a number of times but as we approach the time of a new CIC it is going to come up again and again till it is fully closed. I support that. And now we have this in the news:
Pentagon: 61 ex-Guantanamo inmates return to terrorism By David Morgan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody. Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said 18 former detainees are confirmed as "returning to the fight" and 43 are suspected of having done in a report issued late in December by the Defense Intelligence Agency. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...rpc=22&sp=true
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01-15-2009, 11:24 AM | #3 |
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I don't read it as 18, I read it as 18 + 43. To many for comfort.
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01-15-2009, 11:42 AM | #4 |
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I understand that Merc - But weren't they all "suspected" at first? Then they were released - Why? Because we had no proof!
Now what do we have? More suspicion - sorry, I appreciate the gravity of the situation, but the number I see is still 18, and I wonder about some of them too.
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01-15-2009, 11:56 AM | #5 |
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You know I am not to sure that they were all "suspected" at first. I think it became a place to send people you really didn't know what to do with, esp early on. Higher level people were sent other places. This was a good read that gave me some insight into the early days and what kinds of people were being shoveled off to Gitmo.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The...6011532/?itm=4 From what I can tell bad people were sent there, but they were not the majority.
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01-15-2009, 12:20 PM | #6 |
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How many are turning rather than returning to terrorism?
Either way, hey, now we have a second chance to grab them legitimately. Unless they confirmed the return to terrorism in the same way they grabbed them in the first place.
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01-15-2009, 12:23 PM | #7 |
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I don't think we will ever know for sure. I still stand by my statements to send home to their countries of origin or to where they were picked up and let the host figure out what they want to do with them.
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01-15-2009, 01:38 PM | #8 |
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They apparently cannot do that Merc as that would be, in many cases, the same as condemning them to a death sentence.
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01-15-2009, 01:47 PM | #9 |
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They can do it. They just don't want to.
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01-19-2009, 10:10 AM | #10 |
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Better late than never. They need to finish it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/wa...9gitmo.html?hp
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01-23-2009, 11:23 AM | #11 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/wo...t/23yemen.html
More grist for the mill: freed from Guantanamo in 2007, now deputy leader of Al Qaeda's Yemeni branch. |
01-23-2009, 11:26 AM | #12 |
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In spite of Gitmo, or because of Gitmo?
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01-23-2009, 11:30 AM | #13 | |
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How was Jemaah Islamiya (ie Bali bombings) completely defeated? No torture. No Guantanamo. Instead they used tactics that even professional American interrogators used to actually get information (which completely contradicts wacko extremist politics): From the BBC on 13 September 2006: Quote:
Gitmo is why we had so many fictonal orange alerts such as the Golden Gate Bridge and Newark's Prudential Building. Torture justified by extremists politics only results in no useful intelligence - and Cheney's denials. Gitmo only made America less safe. Obvious once we learn what professional interrogators have always said. Obvious once we ignore wisdom based in extremists politics and extremist propaganda (such as the TV show "24"). Gitmo only created hundreds of potential new terrorists out of people who were once never a threat. BTW, to break Jemaah Islamiya, Indonesian investigators denied access by Americans who love torture. Indonesians did not need America's extremist politics making a mess of their investigation. A stunningly successful investigation because they kept extremists away and used investigation techniques that even the American FBI had used successfully (ie 1993 WTC bombing, USS Coled, etc). But even the FBI got no more information once the administration started using torture, Gitmo, secret torture prision, Abu Ghraid, et al techniques. Last edited by tw; 01-23-2009 at 08:17 PM. |
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