your judgement

lumberjim · 05-29-2008, 11:25 PM

You and 11 other people are selected for a jury. Random slice of citizenry here.

Compared to you, of the 11 others, how many of them do you assume have an inferior sense of judgment?

Clodfobble · 05-29-2008, 11:37 PM

I voted, but I have to warn you it's only a guess, as I've never served on a jury, and won't have to for at least another 10 years, probably more.

Cloud · 05-29-2008, 11:39 PM

Everyone, sad to say. I don't think it's really true, but that's my knee-jerk reaction.

Make that . . . jerk reaction.

Shawnee123 · 05-30-2008, 12:38 AM

I voted seven people have impaired judgment. I am being generous to the ill-informed right-sayers.

sweetwater · 05-30-2008, 08:46 AM

I've served on a jury, and voted according to that experience. Just kept saying, "The law, people, back to the law and the judge's instructions, leave your emotional reactions to the offense in your crib."

SteveDallas · 05-30-2008, 09:15 AM

I'm not sure. I would have assumed it would be somewhere in the 4-6 range. But my experience actually serving on one was it was actually 0. Everybody examined the cases from the prosecution and defense critically, separated their own personal feelings from the judge's instructions, and listened to differing opinions from other jurors with consideration and respect.

It was probably an aberration.

dar512 · 05-30-2008, 09:19 AM

Kaa's Law: In any sufficiently large group of people, most are idiots.

kerosene · 05-30-2008, 09:27 AM

Yes, I voted 11. Not unlike Cloud's knee-jerk reaction. Let's be knee-jerks together, k Cloud?

Sundae · 05-30-2008, 09:50 AM

I voted 11 too.
Just based on the rubbish, urban myths presented as truth and downright lies I overhear on a daily basis.

But I suppose I'm not really much better in that I make snap judgements and leave it up to other people to prove me wrong. In a courtroom I'd listen for all I was worth and try to keep emotion out of the decision though.

Stormieweather · 05-30-2008, 10:28 AM

I'm going with none. I don't care much for assumptions.

Personally, I don't think that other people have an inferior sense of judgement just because they disagree with me or their perceptions clash with mine. Making a judgement of somone's sense of judgement can't possibly be accurate based on one sample of that ability. I don't know too many people who have never made an error in judgement.

If I were to find that all or a majority of the other jurors felt differently than I did, I'd probably review my own opinion to determine if I had any bias or personal perceptions clouding the issue, then either revise or solidify my stance, depending on my introspection.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-30-2008, 10:59 AM

Jeez, it's hard to say how many will disagree with me.

kerosene · 05-30-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Just based on the rubbish, urban myths presented as truth and downright lies I overhear on a daily basis.

I was thinking about that, too. It is amazing what some people believe. All I have to do to find out is look through the email forwards I get from friends and relatives.

Cicero · 05-30-2008, 07:21 PM

Hang him! Hang him! oh hai.

What was the question?

The reason why they can't pick me for jury selection is because I am great at judgement but completely unreliable.
I'm more prone to judge the possible sentence weighed up against the law broken first. If I find the punishment not suitable to the crime I'd judge that. Then guilt or innocence. I'm the one in the room with my own agenda.

Put me at a 3. Not great for court.

lumberjim · 05-30-2008, 10:58 PM

i assume that i'm right until I'm proven wrong. which never happens. wellll......it did happen once.....I thought I was wrong...but it turned out that I was right. so.....

jinx · 05-30-2008, 11:58 PM

I managed to get out of jury duty, so......

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05-29-2008, 11:25 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	your judgement You and 11 other people are selected for a jury. Random slice of citizenry here. Compared to you, of the 11 others, how many of them do you assume have an inferior sense of judgment? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-29-2008, 11:39 PM	#3
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Everyone, sad to say. I don't think it's really true, but that's my knee-jerk reaction. Make that . . . jerk reaction. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-30-2008, 12:38 AM	#4
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I voted seven people have impaired judgment. I am being generous to the ill-informed right-sayers. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

05-30-2008, 08:46 AM	#5
sweetwater lives inside a Mobius strip Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,120	I've served on a jury, and voted according to that experience. Just kept saying, "The law, people, back to the law and the judge's instructions, leave your emotional reactions to the offense in your crib." __________________ I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque! - Bugs Bunny

05-29-2008, 11:37 PM	#2
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I voted, but I have to warn you it's only a guess, as I've never served on a jury, and won't have to for at least another 10 years, probably more.

05-30-2008, 09:15 AM	#6
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	I'm not sure. I would have assumed it would be somewhere in the 4-6 range. But my experience actually serving on one was it was actually 0. Everybody examined the cases from the prosecution and defense critically, separated their own personal feelings from the judge's instructions, and listened to differing opinions from other jurors with consideration and respect. It was probably an aberration.

05-30-2008, 09:19 AM	#7
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Kaa's Law: In any sufficiently large group of people, most are idiots. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

05-30-2008, 09:27 AM	#8
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Yes, I voted 11. Not unlike Cloud's knee-jerk reaction. Let's be knee-jerks together, k Cloud?

05-30-2008, 09:50 AM	#9
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I voted 11 too. Just based on the rubbish, urban myths presented as truth and downright lies I overhear on a daily basis. But I suppose I'm not really much better in that I make snap judgements and leave it up to other people to prove me wrong. In a courtroom I'd listen for all I was worth and try to keep emotion out of the decision though. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

05-30-2008, 10:28 AM	#10
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	I'm going with none. I don't care much for assumptions. Personally, I don't think that other people have an inferior sense of judgement just because they disagree with me or their perceptions clash with mine. Making a judgement of somone's sense of judgement can't possibly be accurate based on one sample of that ability. I don't know too many people who have never made an error in judgement. If I were to find that all or a majority of the other jurors felt differently than I did, I'd probably review my own opinion to determine if I had any bias or personal perceptions clouding the issue, then either revise or solidify my stance, depending on my introspection. __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

05-30-2008, 10:59 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Jeez, it's hard to say how many will disagree with me. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-30-2008, 07:21 PM	#13
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Hang him! Hang him! oh hai. What was the question? The reason why they can't pick me for jury selection is because I am great at judgement but completely unreliable. I'm more prone to judge the possible sentence weighed up against the law broken first. If I find the punishment not suitable to the crime I'd judge that. Then guilt or innocence. I'm the one in the room with my own agenda. Put me at a 3. Not great for court. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

05-30-2008, 10:58 PM	#14
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i assume that i'm right until I'm proven wrong. which never happens. wellll......it did happen once.....I thought I was wrong...but it turned out that I was right. so..... __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-30-2008, 11:58 PM	#15
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I managed to get out of jury duty, so...... __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

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